[Talk-lt] Lithuania city/ town/ village names question

[Paulius Masiliūnas]

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2021-04-22, kt 18:43, J M <justinelliotmeyers at gmail.com> rašė:

> Aidas,
> Thank you for the quick response and detailed information. You are
> correct, OSM already has great data for locations in Lithuania. I am not
> suggesting any update or modification. I am trying to figure out where the
> names actually came from. Registrų Centras has different names than OSM -
> where can I find the source of the OSM names? Is there a table somewhere
> that has both versions? I hope this makes sense to you. I have been looking
> for this for a few days and only found the
> https://mapslt.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=44dd199b6ce1490892a96f5a10075a92
> data - but there isn't a source in that either, and I am not getting an
> email response from them.
>
> Again, Thank You!
> Justin
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM Aidas Kasparas <a.kasparas at gmc.lt> wrote:
>
>> Hi, Justin,
>>
>> Your intensions are good, but information from Registrų Centras has
>> already been integrated into OSM. This endeavor was described by Tomas in a
>> blog post. You can read google's translation of that post at
>> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=lt&tl=en&u=https://blog.openmap.lt/2021/04/04/lietuvos-adresu-informacijos-ikelimas/
>>
>> Regarding Lithuanian names we should start from the fact that Lithuanian
>> language extensively uses grammatical cases. I.e. instead of adding extra
>> words like 'in', 'for', 'of', and so on, we change end of the word.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_case#Lithuanian . In your
>> example 'Kaunas' is the name of the city. Form 'Kauno' means 'of Kaunas'.
>> 'm.' is short for 'miestas' -> 'city', so 'Kauno m.' is 'City of Kaunas'.
>>
>> You may find 'raj.' and 'sav.' next to the name of cities. From soviet
>> times all territory was divided into municipalities -- called 'rajonas'.
>> But biggest cities in LT had two municipalities. First, responsible for
>> urbanized part -- city itself, using 'miestas', and second, countryside
>> "donut" around the city -- using 'rajonas'. Recently some municipalities
>> started to change official names from 'X rajonas' to 'X savivaldybė',
>> literally, 'X self government', so, 'sav.'.
>>
>> Hope, this helps.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Aidas Kasparas
>>
>> On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 10:53 -0400, J M wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>> I am working on a mapping project in an attempt to map all cities, towns,
>> and villages in Lithuania. I found two amazing resources:
>> https://www.registrucentras.lt/p/1201
>>
>> https://mapslt.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=44dd199b6ce1490892a96f5a10075a92
>>
>> The first dataset is official government data, with clear copyright/
>> terms of use. The second dataset I believe is a ESRI company, with a
>> derived dataset of this data, with incorporated census populations, and an
>> additional name. I believe there are formal names for locations in
>> Lithuania and then there are names that people use and are in wikipedia.
>> Can you help me better understand location names in Lithuania?
>>
>> An example would be:
>> Kaunas,Kauno,Kauno m.
>> Marijampolė,Marijampolės,Marijampolės m.
>> Šiauliai,Šiaulių,Šiaulių m.
>> Mažeikiai,Mažeikių,Mažeikių m.
>> Vilnius,Vilniaus,Vilniaus m.
>> Panevėžys,Panevėžio,Panevėžio m.
>> Alytus,Alytaus,Alytaus m.
>> Klaipėda,Klaipėdos,Klaipėdos m.
>>
>> If you have any information, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>
>> Also, Does anyone know the terms of use/ copyright from the census agency
>> village populations or gis data?
>> Thank you!
>> Justin
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