[Talk-lt] Lithuania city/ town/ village names question

[Nerijus Šalkauskas]

Correction: Oficialios gyvenvietės.

On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, 20:45 J M, <justinelliotmeyers at gmail.com> wrote:

> I found what I needed! Uploaded for everyone!!
> https://github.com/justinelliotmeyers/Lithuania_Oficialus_Gyvenvietes
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 1:40 PM Paulius Masiliūnas <paulius007 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If you want more information about Lithuania, you can try searching here:
>> https://osp.stat.gov.lt/
>>
>> 2021-04-22, kt 18:43, J M <justinelliotmeyers at gmail.com> rašė:
>>
>>> Aidas,
>>> Thank you for the quick response and detailed information. You are
>>> correct, OSM already has great data for locations in Lithuania. I am not
>>> suggesting any update or modification. I am trying to figure out where the
>>> names actually came from. Registrų Centras has different names than OSM -
>>> where can I find the source of the OSM names? Is there a table somewhere
>>> that has both versions? I hope this makes sense to you. I have been looking
>>> for this for a few days and only found the
>>> https://mapslt.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=44dd199b6ce1490892a96f5a10075a92
>>> data - but there isn't a source in that either, and I am not getting an
>>> email response from them.
>>>
>>> Again, Thank You!
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 11:32 AM Aidas Kasparas <a.kasparas at gmc.lt>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Justin,
>>>>
>>>> Your intensions are good, but information from Registrų Centras has
>>>> already been integrated into OSM. This endeavor was described by Tomas in a
>>>> blog post. You can read google's translation of that post at
>>>> https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=lt&tl=en&u=https://blog.openmap.lt/2021/04/04/lietuvos-adresu-informacijos-ikelimas/
>>>>
>>>> Regarding Lithuanian names we should start from the fact that
>>>> Lithuanian language extensively uses grammatical cases. I.e. instead of
>>>> adding extra words like 'in', 'for', 'of', and so on, we change end of the
>>>> word. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammatical_case#Lithuanian . In
>>>> your example 'Kaunas' is the name of the city. Form 'Kauno' means 'of
>>>> Kaunas'. 'm.' is short for 'miestas' -> 'city', so 'Kauno m.' is 'City of
>>>> Kaunas'.
>>>>
>>>> You may find 'raj.' and 'sav.' next to the name of cities. From soviet
>>>> times all territory was divided into municipalities -- called 'rajonas'.
>>>> But biggest cities in LT had two municipalities. First, responsible for
>>>> urbanized part -- city itself, using 'miestas', and second, countryside
>>>> "donut" around the city -- using 'rajonas'. Recently some municipalities
>>>> started to change official names from 'X rajonas' to 'X savivaldybė',
>>>> literally, 'X self government', so, 'sav.'.
>>>>
>>>> Hope, this helps.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Aidas Kasparas
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, 2021-04-22 at 10:53 -0400, J M wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello!
>>>> I am working on a mapping project in an attempt to map all cities,
>>>> towns, and villages in Lithuania. I found two amazing resources:
>>>> https://www.registrucentras.lt/p/1201
>>>>
>>>> https://mapslt.maps.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=44dd199b6ce1490892a96f5a10075a92
>>>>
>>>> The first dataset is official government data, with clear copyright/
>>>> terms of use. The second dataset I believe is a ESRI company, with a
>>>> derived dataset of this data, with incorporated census populations, and an
>>>> additional name. I believe there are formal names for locations in
>>>> Lithuania and then there are names that people use and are in wikipedia.
>>>> Can you help me better understand location names in Lithuania?
>>>>
>>>> An example would be:
>>>> Kaunas,Kauno,Kauno m.
>>>> Marijampolė,Marijampolės,Marijampolės m.
>>>> Šiauliai,Šiaulių,Šiaulių m.
>>>> Mažeikiai,Mažeikių,Mažeikių m.
>>>> Vilnius,Vilniaus,Vilniaus m.
>>>> Panevėžys,Panevėžio,Panevėžio m.
>>>> Alytus,Alytaus,Alytaus m.
>>>> Klaipėda,Klaipėdos,Klaipėdos m.
>>>>
>>>> If you have any information, I would greatly appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>> Also, Does anyone know the terms of use/ copyright from the census
>>>> agency village populations or gis data?
>>>> Thank you!
>>>> Justin
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