[Talk-lv] Fwd: [Talk-ee] Hello from Latvian project

Rich richlv at nakts.net
Mon Sep 27 13:08:03 BST 2010


Gints Polis wrote:
> Lūdzu jūsu komentārus/ierosinājumus.

dazhas sasodiiti labas idejas. imho sho to varam maaciities - galvenais, 
nesasteigt un izdariit kvalitatiivi...

> Gints
> 
> ---------- Pārsūtītais ziņojums ----------
> No: *Jaak Laineste* <jaak at openstreetmap.ee <mailto:jaak at openstreetmap.ee>>
> Datums: 2010. gada 24. septembris 15:01
> Temats: RE: [Talk-ee] Hello from Latvian project
> Kam: Gints Polis <polis.gints at gmail.com <mailto:polis.gints at gmail.com>>
> 
> 
> Hi Gints,
> 
> We don’t have any proposal ready, we have just an idea that something 
> could be done. Just for info, our current local OSM project had 
> following main activities/costs:
> 
> -        Local servers for localized maps (in Estonian)

sheit jaaskataas, vai wikimedias toolserveri nenoklaas sho nishu

> -        Mapping parties (about 4 of them, 2 are done)
> -        Trainings – one special for geography teachers is done

gjeniaala doma. imho sho vajadzeetu saakt biidiit. ir kaadam idejas, no 
kura gala sho labaak celt ? kaut kaadi gali izgliitiibas ministrijaa, 
geofakaa vai kur citur ?

> -        Software and wiki translation services
> -        Creation of own “localized” map layout
> -        Marketing materials and costs (small amount)
> -        Project management
> 
> We have official permission from our national mapping agency (maaamet.ee 
> <http://maaamet.ee>) that they allow to use their WMS service for maps 
> and aerial images. These tend to be outdated, but are very detailed. So 
> we don’t need much more extra aerials here.

luuk, ja mums kaut kaadi rgis/lgia u.c. buutu pietiekami nomotiveeti... 
kaa ar riigas domi/lgis, btw, laikam jau jaunumu nav ? :)

> For the cooperation contents my current ideas are:
> 
> -        Cross-border mapping parties – not only mapping, but also idea 
> and experience exchange.  In current project we had way too small 
> budget, so we could buy a mapping cake and that’s it. Next time also 
> accommodation, peoples’ travel cost etc should be included, also GPSs 
> and other smaller tools.

shis vareetu buut baigi labais. miniet, kura[s] pilseeta[s] pirmaa[s] 
ienaaca praataa ;)
vobshem - vajag. mosh uz pavasari tieshaam var noorganizeet vienu 
masveida weekendu valkaa/valgaa ?

> -        Maybe some regional costs could be included, like your needed 
> aerials for Latvia; if we include also some Estonian areas, and these 
> would be also needed for the cross-border mapping parties.

sheit varbuut ilgterminjaa labaak buutu koncentreet speekus uz valsts un 
pashvaldiibu iesaisti. tad, kad kaut kaadi dati ir dabuuti, to jau var 
pasniegt kaa pozitiivu piemeeru un motiveet turpmaakaas pashvaldiibas.

> -        GeoBus Baltics, like http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoBus. 
> In Tallinn there is one company using also US school-bus for IT services 
> (http://www.itbuss.ee/eng/itbuss), so could ask technical help from them

shis ir gjeniaali :)
buutu ljoti deriigi. tomeer shis ir viens no tiem pasaakumiem, kuram 
buutu jaasagatavojas _nenormaali_ ruupiigi. tas ir pamatiigs darbs gan 
materiaalu sagatavoshanaa, gan arii pashu treninjaa.
viena lieta ir aatri pastaastiit par josm lietoshanu jau iesaistiitaam 
personaam, kas pavisam cits ir osm jeegas izskaidroshana cilveekiem, kas 
par to neko nav dzirdeejushi, kaa arii veel pamatinfo sniegshana par 
iesaistiishanaas iespeejaam...
nemaz nerunaajot par pedagogjisko skillu un speeju sho informaaciju 
pasniegt pieklaajiigi.

> Regarding specific EstLat program: it is important to know that we 
> should be able to cover the costs, and these (85% of them to be precise, 
> but the rest could be also our own unpaid working hours) will be covered 
> later by program, after reviewing reports etc. This means that some kind 
> of bridge financing should be organized for about 6 months (it will take 
> 2-6 months from making spending to getting funds). In some cases bank 
> gives loan (with the project itself as guarantee), but also then some 
> bigger organization would be useful to back it. So this is also one 
> consideration when choosing which organization could be suitable. This 
> is quite common with most of our support systems, I guess it is usual in 
> Latvia also.

milzu iespeejas, milzu darbs. cik nu sanaaks, ljoti labpraat piedaliitos.

> Jaak
...
-- 
  Rich



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