[Talk-lv] Fwd: [Talk-us] We have less than a week left to remap!

AivarsB vrs.brt at gmail.com
Thu Mar 22 15:12:34 GMT 2012


Kāda ir ieteicamā recepte, lai LV salabotu?

Atvērt JOSM-ā vietu kurā ir problēmas, pa vienam izdzēst problēmu objektus
un to vietā iezīmēt jaunu? (ar ko tas atšķirtos ja uzrakstītu skriptu kas
savāc visus problēm objektus, izdzēš un izveido par jaunu).


Vai labāk pagaidīt 1. aprīli un tad naivi un ar svaigu pioniera sajūtu
iezīmēt trūkstošos ceļus?
(jebkurā gadījumā kādu laiku būs jāatturas no svaigāko karšu datu importa).


Jelgavniekiem būs ļoti interesanti par jaunu atklāt savu pilsētu ;)


A.


2012/3/22 Raitis U. <raitisx at gmail.com>

> ok, tātad according to this:
> http://cleanmap.poole.ch/?zoom=9&lat=56.78476&lon=24.1001&layers=00B0
> Jelgava, Saldus un Skrīveri faktiski aiziet pa pieskari?
> Kas tur notiek ar Krievijas robežām?
>
> p.s. izskatās ka Polija būs visai patukša...
>
> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Rich <richlv at nakts.net> wrote:
>
>> dazhi linki uz varbuut deriigiem tuuljiem. artdru veiksmiigaa kaartaa
>> piekrita (paldies :) ), bet tagad var meegjinaat satiiriit kaadu dalju no
>> paareejaa - diez vai atlikushie piekritiis...
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: [Talk-us] We have less than a week left to remap!
>> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 21:59:07 -0500
>> From: Toby Murray <toby.murray at gmail.com>
>> To: talk-us <talk-us at openstreetmap.org>
>>
>> I don't think this has been reposted to talk-us yet. According to the
>> latest license change rebuild plan, the database will enter read-only
>> mode on March 27th for the license rebuild:
>> http://www.osmfoundation.org/**wiki/License/Rebuild_Plan<http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Rebuild_Plan>
>>
>> So that gives us a matter of days to do any more remapping. It seems
>> like the US hasn't seen a concerted effort to remap dirty data like
>> some other countries have. So here is my attempt to get that started.
>> I'm not sure if some people still don't know about the license change
>> of if people think someone else will take care of the important
>> things... But *everything* is on the chopping block!
>>
>> Some highlights:
>>
>> 1) State/county borders. I've actually cleaned up a good chunk of
>> these and hope to finish in the next few days. I may have to reimport
>> some of the remaining ways. Anyone have thoughts on the best source
>> for this information?
>>
>> 2) The interstate system. I've taken care of about 4 or 5 states here
>> in the midwest but there is a large swath from Illinois down to South
>> Carolina that will become unroutable on April 1st. This will set OSM
>> back immensely in the eyes of anyone actually trying to use our data.
>>
>> 3) Specific cities: Los Angeles, Ausin, Seattle. Most major cities
>> have some unclean blobs in them but these are particularly nasty. User
>> blars has not responded to repeated requests for contact and I have
>> reason to believe he is intentionally ignoring anything OSM related.
>> His contributions are beyond huge in the LA area and really along a
>> lot of the west coast. Seattle is mostly affected by user Sunny who
>> has proven to be unreachable despite my best cyberstalking attempts.
>> Austin, TX is also largely affected by one prolific user but it has
>> actually gotten some attention so it isn't entirely doomed.
>>
>> 4) Shorelines. These were imported from a public domain source by an
>> anonymous user. I'm tempted to largely mark this with odbl=clean and
>> call it a day. Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> In light of this, I would strongly encourage everyone reading this
>> list to suspend your current mapping efforts and concentrate entirely
>> on license remapping for the next few days. It's not the most fun work
>> but it needs to get done.
>>
>> Tools to use:
>>
>> JOSM license change plugin. Select everything in an area and hit the
>> "License Check" button. Start deleting red things and replacing them
>> from clean sources:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/JOSM/Plugins/**LicenseChange<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/LicenseChange>
>>
>> Potlatch2 I think now has the license change layer enabled by default.
>> If not, go into the options and make sure "Show license status" is
>> checked. Again... remove anything with a red halo and replace.
>>
>> Badmap. Dirty interstates are clearly visible:
>> http://cleanmap.poole.ch/?**zoom=5&lat=41.12823&lon=-99.**
>> 48465&layers=00B0<http://cleanmap.poole.ch/?zoom=5&lat=41.12823&lon=-99.48465&layers=00B0>
>>
>> OSM Inspector. Good for drilling down and finding individual objects to
>> remap:
>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/**osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-100.**
>> 24219&lat=40.17384&zoom=4<http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-100.24219&lat=40.17384&zoom=4>
>>
>> TIGER 2011 road name tiles. Used as a background imagery layer while
>> editing. Good to pull street names while remapping residential areas.
>> Just be sure to expand the abbreviations while you're at it.
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/**wiki/TIGER_2011<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER_2011>
>>
>> I have also written two blog posts on my own remapping efforts. The
>> first focuses on interstates where there is existing clean data to
>> work with. The biggest trick here is making sure you don't break the
>> route relations. But honestly I wouldn't worry about it too much. As
>> long as the ways are intact, routing will continue to work. We can
>> come back later and clean up the route relations after the license
>> change.
>> http://ksmapper.blogspot.com/**2012/01/license-change-**mapping.html<http://ksmapper.blogspot.com/2012/01/license-change-mapping.html>
>>
>> The second post is quite a bit more technical and I don't expect many
>> others to follow it really. It was useful in that area of LA but it
>> involves some traditional GIS tools, data analysis and a little python
>> coding. For this type of work, most people would be better off using
>> the TIGER 2011 road name tiles listed above.
>> http://ksmapper.blogspot.com/**2012/03/remapping-using-tiger-**2011.html<http://ksmapper.blogspot.com/2012/03/remapping-using-tiger-2011.html>
>>
>> Honestly, it is kind of late to be sending out this email... I
>> probably should have done it a couple of weeks ago but hopefully we
>> can still make a meaningful dent in the dirty data. At least this
>> whole process is almost over...
>>
>> Toby
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