[Talk-mm] Myanmar Relief Effort - IT infrastructure - Notes from Conference Call #2
Thaung Su Nyein
thaungsunyein at gmail.com
Tue Jun 10 07:45:36 BST 2008
Hi... just want to make some modifications to the excellent minutes by Neil.
BTW, I'm not Burmese Australian. I was educated overseas, but still Burmese
:-). Our profiles (if you choose to post) can be posted on wiki as
following:
Team leader, Project Coordinator for Myanmar Egress: Mr Ye Myat Thu
- President, Myanmar Computer Industries Assn (Mandalay)
- Director, Myanmar Egress
Project Coordinator for MCPA: Mr Thaung Su Nyein
- EC, Myanmar Computer Professionals Assn
- Web developer
Mr Nay Lin Than
- EC, Myanmar Computer Professionals Assn
- Software engineer
Mr Nyi Lynn Seck
- EC, Myanmar Computer Professionals Assn
- Blogger, webmaster, aid relief worker
Mr Htain Lin Shwe
- Member, Myanmar Computer Professionals Assn
- Sahana, OSM, Linux (Ubuntu)
And many other Executive Committee members from MCPA who have agreed to work
in various Sahana-related working committees, and implementation taskforces.
Will send detailed list after tomorrow 3pm meeting to coordinate matters, in
Myanmar.
regards,
tsn
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I'd like to strip this off:
The Myanmar team indicated that there are 2 Myanmar government
departments working on producing digitised maps of the Myanmar data
and they will be able to access these.
And replace with:
The Myanmar team indicated that there are official efforts by some
government departments to produce digitised maps of the area
and they may be able to access these.
===================================
I'd like to clarify the following:
*** Thaung believes they have all the server/computing hardware they
need to implement their plan. Not sure I agree yet, but worth
noting.
Correct version would be:
We believe we have enough server/computing hardware to implement
the pilot (initial) phase of the project, involving a couple of iPSTARs,
clone
(non-branded) desktop PCs acting as temporary servers, and a few laptops
and some Eee PCs from Asus. However, now fully realizing the scale of
Sahana
computing requirements and that of OSM, we probably would need to
scale up the hardware configuration much more. And for remote teams, we
still haven't sourced laptops and other necessary equipment.
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 4:04 AM, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks for collecting these minutes Neil. What do we think about posting
> these notes to the wiki?
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Neil Penman <npenman at au1.ibm.com>
> To: john.mckenzie at worldvision.com.au; R.Shamir at cfa.vic.gov.au; Richard
> Rome <rrome at au1.ibm.com>; Terri Pond <terri at itcrisis.com>; Michael A
> Donahe <donahe at itcrisis.com>; Mark Prutsalis <mark at globaliist.com>; Ian M
> Steinberg <ians at us.ibm.com>; Rebecca Curzon <rebecca_curzon at us.ibm.com>;
> Brett Henderson <brethend at au1.ibm.com>; Ian Checkley <icheckle at au1.ibm.com>;
> eggersrj at gmail.com; Gail Hepworth <hepworth at us.ibm.com>; Barry Pipella <
> barrypip at au1.ibm.com>; Kenneth M Khouri <khouri at us.ibm.com>
> Cc: Christopher Tun <christophertun at gmail.com>; Brett Henderson <
> brett at bretth.com>; Chamindra De Silva <chamindra at opensource.lk>; Eduardo
> Jezierski <edjez at instedd.org>; Htain Lin Shwe <htainlinshwe at gmail.com>;
> THAR HTET <kotharthar at gmail.com>; Daniel Cazzulino <
> kzu at clariusconsulting.net>; Nyi Lynn Seck ညီလင္းဆက္ <lynnseck at gmail.com>;
> mifan at opensource.lk; Mifan Careem <mifanc at gmail.com>; Mikel Maron <
> mikel_maron at yahoo.com>; Nay Linn Than <naylynnthan at gmail.com>; Roshan
> Hewapathirana <roshanhewapathirana at gmail.com>; Roshan Hewapathirana <
> roshanhewapathirana at yahoo.com>; Sandro Franchi <sandro at alegua.com.ar>; Ye
> Myat Thu Mandalay <yemyatthu at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 5, 2008 7:30:56 PM
> Subject: Myanmar Relief Effort - IT infrastructure - Notes from Conference
> Call #2
>
>
> For these minutes I have taken the notes that Rob Eggers wrote after the
> first conference call and added information from the second. The intention
> is to inform a fairly wide circle of people about this initiative. These
> conference calls have been organised by Christopher Tun to assist the
> Myanmar delivery team set up Sahana and OSM while they are in Bangkok.
> Please send me any corrections. I've also put a copy of this email as a
> word document in case the formatting is lost in transmission.
>
> The Myanmar team is made up of IT professionals affiliated with Myanmar
> Egress and the Myanmar Computer Professionals Association (MCPA). They are
> working with NGOs inside Myanmar and with the Myanmar government to provide
> and coordinate IT resources for the coalition of NGOs responding to the
> cyclone. The team has relocated to Bangkok for 5 days until Sunday to get
> access to high speed Internet and support. Internet access is available in
> Myanmar but has limited capacity.
>
> Notes
> The conference call was held Thursday 8am EST (US).
>
> Conference Call Objectives
> Provide the Myanmar delivery team with information on Open Street Maps.
> Mikel Maron presented an overview of OSM followed by a question and
> answer session between the delivery team, Mikel and Brett Henderson (one
> of the core OSM developers).
>
> Attendees
>
> Chris Tun
> Volunteer from Deloitte-Touche based in California
> Born in Burma and with lots of business and family contacts
> there
> Functioning as a primary lead and facilitator from afar
> Indicated some ability to expedite visas and access
> christophertun at gmail.com
> 415-385-6033 (San Jose)
>
> Thaung Su Nyein
> Burmese-Australian I think
> One of the three-man tech team -- seems to be leading that
> little group
> Based in Myanmar
> Has a web and software development background
> thaungsunyein at gmail.com
>
> Ye Myat Thu
> Wasn't introduced, but I understand he's one of the three-man
> tech team
> Based in Myanmar
> yemyatthu at gmail.com
>
> Htain Lin Shwe
> Part of the Myanmar based team
> htainlinshwe at gmail.com
>
> Mikel Maron
> Freelance web Consultant based in San Francisco and Brighton UK
> Senior developer at Yahoo from 1997 to 2001
> Recently conducted workshops over 3 months in Indian
> universities on OSM
> Is our main contact with the UN FAO and Christopher Tun
> mikel_maron at yahoo.com
>
> Ian Checkley
> IBM IT Architect based in Melbourne
> Involved in OSM and the World Development Initiatve with a
> focus on East Africa
> icheckle at au1.ibm.com
>
> Rob Eggers
> Sahana expert
> Recently left IBM and is now running his own IT business
> While Rob was at IBM he was sent to Peru to liaise with the
> government and help get Sahana up and running after an
> earthquake. He was also involved in setting up Sahana to
> support the New York City coastal storm plan
> eggersrj at gmail.com, eggersrj at yahoo.com
>
> Brett Henderson
> IBM IT Architect based in Melbourne
> Developer of Osmosis an OSM application for Extracting and
> processing bulk GIS data
> brethend at au1.ibm.com
>
> Neil Penman
> IBM IT Architect based in Melbourne
> Has been investigating how IBM can use OSM as part of the World
> Development Initiative
> npenman at au1.ibm.com
>
> Presentation
> Mikel walked through the OSM data gathering process:
> Recording GPS logs
> Uploading the GPS data into OSM
> Tagging the data
> Customisation of data (For example the Myanmar team were keen to
> record pagodas as these are high visibility landmarks in Myanmar)
> Using map data from other sources including both WMS and non WMS
> digitised maps
> Brett Henderson answered questions on the integration between a local
> server in Myanmar and the master OSM database.
>
> Discussion
> The Myanmar team indicated that there are 2 Myanmar government
> departments working on producing digitised maps of the Myanmar data
> and they will be able to access these.
> The Myanmar team made a strong request for assistance in Myanmar for
> support in OSM and Sahana. They offered to organise visas for all
> people on the call.
> bandwidth available inside Myanmar from the provinces is low (as low
> as 28 kbps).
>
> Next Meeting
> Topic: Sahana-MM Session 3: Sahana By Robert Eggers
> Date: Saturday, June 7, 2008
> Time: 5:00 am, Pacific Daylight Time (GMT -07:00, San Francisco)
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> Appendix - Additional notes from Rob Eggers minutes of the first conference
> call:
>
> a) At this point they seem to have an infrastructure and process design in
> mind -- I suspect there may be some scale and execution issues for what
> they're talking about, but this was just an introductory discussion not an
> implementation planning session:
> Localization of Sahana to Burmese is considered generally complete,
> but with a few bugs that are being ironed out atm.
> *** Their hope is to attempt to provide both English and Burmese at
> the resource data level in order to share the system between local
> Burmese speakers and international English-speaking NGOs. I don't
> believe this going to be a trivial support/implementation item
> Central Sahana servers will be hosted at Yangon-HQ -- one for Burmese
> gov't and Burmese NGOs, and another for international NGOs (as I
> understood)
> There will be ~10 remote processing centers at each of the major
> townships, each with a small handful of laptops all running their own
> installation of Sahana.
> Each township hosts ~20 or so NGOs but with little coordinated effort
> thus far
> Data will be gathered by teams of 4-5 based out of each township,
> using some *standard* forms developed during the Tsunami
> Data will be entered into the township laptops and then uploaded to
> Yangon via IPStar terminals at each of the 10 townships
> *** Thaung believes they have all the server/computing hardware they
> need to implement their plan. Not sure I agree yet, but worth
> noting.
>
> b) They seem to have a requirement that the mapping system work offline as
> network connectivity is spotty/limited through the system
>
> c) Best thing going for coordinated data seems to be the UN MIMU system:
> http://myanmar.humanitarianinfo.org
>
> d) They're targeting Sahana system launch date of June 15 with whatever
> available IPStar uplinks they have at that point.
>
> STAKEHOLDERS:
> e) Volunteers and NGOs are the primary system/solution owners for now --
> no clear identification of long term support plans as of yet (whether
> gov't, NGO, private parties, etc).
>
> f) The team is hopeful they can get Garmin GPS devices from Ian Checkley
> (Ian is IBM in Australia -- seems Ian mentioned this might be possible)
> with which to track incidents and damage to populate to Sahana, and to help
> develop a more complete mapping system.
>
> g) UN-led NGOs and the gov't are two main stakeholders.
>
> h) MCPA does not have any government officers on the executive committee..
> (it does have a Professor from a government university).
>
> i) Myanmar Egress is a totally 100% private NGO. Egress does however have
> some influential connections, so combined network / connections of MCPA and
> Egress are pretty essential to successfully implement this project.
>
> j) Egress has good relationships with both government and UN-led orgs ...
> so it's in a unique position to bridge the two sides.
>
>
> (See attached file: Myanmar Relief Effort - IT infrastructure - Conference
> Call #2.doc)
> Regards
>
> Neil Penman
> IT Architect
> Global Business Services
>
> Phone : + 61 -3-864 65703
> Mobile: +61 402-975-959
> email: npenman at au1.ibm.com
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