[OSM-np] Classification of Roads in Nepal

[Prabhas Pokharel]

Hmm, not sure that I have more clarity in my head of how to tag things now.
There are also highway=service and highway=path that we could pair with
motorcycle=yes.

In general, I think the rules that are built are very western centric, as
you can see in the images in the path controversy (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Path_controversy). So the guidelines we
build for ourselves should be a result of creative interpretation of norms
in place in other places of the world rather than trying to find the exact
meaning based on pictures that one is very unlikely to see in Nepal.

--p

On Saturday, June 30, 2012, bibekshrestha at gmail.com wrote:

> For living_street vs residential road, the first paragraph here
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dresidential kind of
> explains the difference. Atleast the image on the right side does not look
> like a living_street.
> --
> Bibek Shrestha
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> Arthur, Inception 2010
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>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:55 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The following references try to clarify the confusion, but only to some
> extent.
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:highway%3Dpedestrian#footway_vs_pedestrian
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Path_controversy
>
> --
> Bibek Shrestha
> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
> Arthur, Inception 2010
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 4:54 PM, bibekshrestha at gmail.com <
> bibekshrestha at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> --
> Bibek Shrestha
> bibekshrestha at gmail dot com
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/bibstha
> "You mustn't be afraid to dream a little bigger, darling.", Eames to
> Arthur, Inception 2010
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Prabhas Pokharel <
> prabhas.pokharel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Bibek, thanks for making a first draft of this important document. One
> minor suggestion: should we think of something that is very similar to
> highway=pedestrian, but streets that are accessible to motorcycles? As we
> know, there are a lot of places like this in Kathmandu, does dual tagging of
> highway=pedestrian and motorcyle=yes make sense?
>
> I think we agree on motorcycle=yes on this but I'm not too sure whether we
> use highway=footway or highway=pedestrian. (Which Sakar mentioned in his
> reply).
>
> I would personally prefer highway=pedestrian for the following criteria.
> a. if the road is as wide enough as a normal road but people use it only
> for walking (usually city centers, squares, etc),
>
> highway=footpath
> b. The narrow gallis and shortcuts which cannot have a car (sth bigger
> than a maruti may be because maruti usually can squeeze in any kind of
> road) move through it. Like the gallis in Bhaktapur or Kathmandu.
>
>
>
>
> The trickiest part when tagging that I come across is deciding between
> highway=residential and highway=living_street Its usually very difficult
> deciding between the two. You seem to suggest two possibilities: lacking a
> footpath, or a street intended for two-way transport which cannot fit cars
> going both directions at the same time. I think if we pick the latter, it
> will be most appropriate, as even bigger residential streets in many areas
> of the city lack footpaths, but the determinant of two cards being able to
> pass each other at any spot of the road seems like an important one in
> separating classes of roads.
>
> IMO, a living_street has low volume of traffic and usually have more
> people activities, like mentioned in the wiki, children could be playing in
> the field, or in Nepal, bunch of people gambling or a 24 hours bar (local
> bhatti ;-) ) and people sitting in front in chairs drinking milk tea or
> sth, etc. A highway=residential is more for people just using the road for
> moving from one place to another.
> And yes like you said, two way traffic vs only one car at a time is also a
> nice way to classify the if it is living_street vs residential. Just a
> note, the one way should probably be a result of more human activities
> involve
>
>

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