[Talk-nz] Place names

Eliot Blennerhassett eliot at blennerhassett.gen.nz
Wed Nov 10 02:44:42 UTC 2021


On 10/11/21 14:35, Mike Kittridge wrote:
> well...now that I'm actually looking at the wiki page in more detail...it really does seem to emphasize that the "name" tag should be what's "on the ground".
> I take back what I said before...reluctantly...because I would have preferred it be the official name according to the gazetteer, but there is an "official_name" tag that can be used for that purpose.

Note that "on the ground" means "whatever name, designation, etc are used by the people on the ground at that location".
It doesn't mean "what is written on a signpost"
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes#On_the_Ground_Rule


Having said that, nitpicking over the meanings of words in the guidelines won't resolve this.
The NZ community can still decide that the names with macrons per the gazetteer are the ones to go in "name".
I am still in favour of this.

I read the OTG rule as being more about avoiding confusion, and editwars in disputed territories.
It is not as if the name with a macron is going to create confusion in people using the map to find a place.
"I'm looking for the turnoff to Ōkarito, but that sign says Okarito so I'd better keep driving"?



As Andy Townsend said "a community decision is a far better option than us just choosing to enforce one option or another.

I have little time for the no-macron side given that they have zero history of contributing *anything* to the
NZ map apart from deleting macrons from names, and then citing "the rules" as a reason why it is justified.

--
Eliot



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