[talk-ph] Google making moves ...

maning sambale emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Thu Dec 4 08:00:01 GMT 2008

@ eugene,

Wow! This is something to blog about!  Keep it coming Ianlopez your the man!

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:54 PM, ian lopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Not only are they stealing our ish, they are not good "faultcheckers", as I
> found out barely an hour ago:
> $ Where's the island that has "Hospicio de San Jose" on it? (OSM has the
> island, Google "sunk" it)
> $ D Romualdez, Sr. is "part" of Natividad Almeda-Lopez
> $ The Uniliver Philippines complex in Paco is being refered to its "old"
> name
> $ They don't know where Robinson's Otis is (recently mapped on OSM, though
> under a landuse=retail tag)
> $ They haven't realize that Phil. Normal University has an annex (just a
> walk away, in front of the main campus)
> $ They don't have the acces roads within (most of) PGH
> $ They ignore certain streams that "we" have
> $ The last time I passed by Cash & Carry, I believe that it became a mall.
> (recently)
> $ Misspellings and certain misinformation
> $ They forgot where Mandarin Oriental Manila is (or they haven't got a clue
> what is that place)
> $ There is no U-turn overpass on C5 (going to Bonifacio Global CIty
> $ No update on the Bonifacio Global City area (they retained the old street
> plan) except for Serendra
> $ Eastwood City looks "half-empty" in Google, seav's coverage pwns everyone
> $ Borders are hopelessly and foolishly inaccurate
> $ San Pablo City and Santa Cruz (in Laguna) are either woefully incomplete
> or totally ignored, other places are mostly blank except for certain major
> areas (a certain major area is Metro Manila)
> and come on, with too much restrictions in its mapamker, I'd be better off
> with the tried, tested, and easy-to-fix OSM.
> --- On Thu, 12/4/08, Jim Morgan <jim at datalude.com> wrote:
> From: Jim Morgan <jim at datalude.com>
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Google making moves ...
> To: "OSM" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
> Date: Thursday, December 4, 2008, 3:33 PM
> I can kind of see why Google is targeting Philippines and other developing
> countries. Its basically the same reason as we're doing Openstreetmap:
> because there is no good online map available. In HK there are a couple, so
> there is not as much need for
>  another one. If you look at OSM for HK there's
> very little there.
> I'm not sure that they're poaching contributors from a Creative Commons
> project. Do you have any information  on this? However I'd be interested to
> see where they got their data from. Of course they're a rich corporation and
> can afford to pay for it. But it seems odd that the coverage of their data
> is
> very similar to OSM -- mainly Metro Manila and not much beyond that. It
> seems to
> correspond roughly with their coverage of high res photography.
> Jim
> sorabsuperstar at web.de wrote, On Thursday, December 04, 2008 02:14 PM:
>> I did now know about that project of google yet.
>> ...and I am pretty confused and annoyed about google...AGAIN!
>> I mean what shall this be good for? Certainly not for the greater good:
>> Poaching contributors from a creative commons project, in order to fill in
> their own shortcommings in maping developing
>  countries ....and commercializing
> their contributions then for free.
>> Because this is exactly what they a shooting for. Only this! Check google
> mapmaker in well maped areas like Europe or North America. There is NOTHING!
> Its
> only in countries like Philippines and Vietnam.
>> They saw that open communities do a good job in maping the white patches
> on the world map, and now they are trying to "steal" it.
>> If they'd put this all under an open license lice CC or GPL, it would
> be fine.
>> But this way ...
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