[talk-ph] Draft "MoA" between the OSM-F and any possible localchapter

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Thanks, Mike, for sharing your inputs!

Well, it's not actually that expensive to start a non-profit in the
Philippines. I think the minimum capital required is 5,000 pesos (although
setting up a bank account needs a minimum of 20K). It's the foundation type
of corporation that is expensive: requires 1M.

Anyway, I agree that for individual mapping, an organization is not really
needed. But to take the OSM to the next level an organization is definitely
wanted due to the need to have a legal entity to represent the community
when interacting with other entities.


On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:16 PM, Mike Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz> wrote:

>  I was present at an informal Local Chapters meeting in Amsterdam during
> SOTM with mostly German, Spanish and Italian community members. Eugene
> already outlines the many of the main points raised.  In addition I'd
> emphasize:
>
> - It is expensive in to form a legal non-profit (not just in the
> Philippines!).  It was suggested that the agreement be relaxed either to say
> that the intent be non-profit event if registered as an ordinary company or
> just to say that if must be in line with the aims of the Foundation.
>
> - If members are not automatically OSMF members, this means that an
> existing organisation can be used and essentially a Special Interest Group
> is formed. That needs some care, as an example using Linux Users Group may
> seem ideal but might turn off some mappers who are not into Linux or open
> software.
>
> These requests have been broadly accepted and all seem positive for you
> guys as it gives more options and may save money. I hope Nick Black, who is
> leading the initiative for the Foundation, is keeping in touch with Maning?
>
> My own personal opinion, BTW, is that having a formal organisation rather
> then just meeting for great mapping parties :-)  is not of great value to
> individual mappers, BUT is very useful when asking organisations to donate
> data and moderately so for generating publicity statements for tv and
> newspapers ... so I kinda hope you do!
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> At 07:47 PM 18/07/2009, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>
> Anyway, the German community has given some critical feedback to the draft
> agreement. The thread at the talk-de mailing list starts here:
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2009-July/049445.html
>
> In particular, they are against the reverting of assets to OSM-F when the
> relationship is terminated even if the local chapter had paid for those
> assets before the agreement (e.g., the openstreetmap.de domain). They are
> also against the consideration that local chapter members are automatically
> OSM-F members as well and that the local chapter has to pay the OSM-F
> membership fees.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 12:08 AM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  If I remember it right, Enthropia commited to help us in setting-up a
> local chapter.  I believe Andre even posted a short survey to list
> members of what are their views on formalizing OSM-PH.
>
> Most people who answered are in favor of the formalization.  Totor has
> some reservations for a possible admin/management overhead of a formal
> org.
>
> We want it done but somebody has to do it. :)
>
> @ Andre, can you give us some update on Enthropia's previous offer?
> Sayang yung opportunity.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Marloue Pidor< murlwe at mail2engineer.com>
> wrote:
> > This is nice, you have me on this.
> >
> > murlwe
> > <-----Original Message----->
> >>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [seav80 at gmail.com]
> >>Sent: 7/18/2009 6:54:52 PM
> >>To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> >>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Draft "MoA" between the OSM-F and any possible
> >>localchapter
> >>
> >>Hi guys,
> >>
> >>I came across this draft agreement between a local organization wanting
> to
> >>officially represent the OSM-F in a local jurisdiction and the OSM-F:
> >> http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgdmw5gt_7gtj36hhh
> >>
> >>What do you guys think?
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Eugene / seav
> >>
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