[talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 27
noel mondragon
noel_pylon03 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 29 02:43:03 BST 2009
Nakakainggit naman jan...very supportive talaga ng Davao sa OSM... sana makasali ako sa susunod na mapping party.
-noel
--- On Sun, 6/28/09, talk-ph-request at openstreetmap.org <talk-ph-request at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
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Subject: talk-ph Digest, Vol 11, Issue 27
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Date: Sunday, June 28, 2009, 6:33 PM
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: PIA article: "Online mappers to launch Davao
mappingparty" (maning sambale)
2. Re: OpenStreetMap Philippines Community Survey
(Andre Marcelo-Tanner)
3. philippine speed limits (maning sambale)
4. osm-ph mapper epsg4253 post series (maning sambale)
5. Re: philippine speed limits (ian lopez)
6. Re: philippine speed limits (Jim Morgan)
7. Re: philippine speed limits (Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd.)
8. RFC: importing Palawan roads (jeff fermo)
9. Re: RFC: importing Palawan roads (George Tujan)
10. Re: RFC: importing Palawan roads (maning sambale)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:29:14 +0800
From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] PIA article: "Online mappers to launch Davao
mappingparty"
To: Marloue Pidor <murlwe at mail2engineer.com>
Cc: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
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Good luck! I'm excited to see the results.
On 6/23/09, Marloue Pidor <murlwe at mail2engineer.com> wrote:
> Yeah! Ang bilis mo maghanap ng info. There are 13 - 15 joined the
> workshop some were not there for some reason. The Mapping Party will be
> on July 4 and is composed of 5 teams. We already sliced the cake for the
> mapping party and is subject to change depending on the need of Davao
> City Tourism Office. I am encouraging my student to join the mapping
> party.
>
> Best
>
>
> murlwe
>
> <-----Original Message----->
>>From: Eugene Alvin Villar [seav80 at gmail.com]
>>Sent: 6/22/2009 11:38:21 PM
>>To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
>>Subject: Re: [talk-ph] PIA article: "Online mappers to launch Davao
>>mappingparty"
>>
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>Check this article from the Philippine Information Agency:
>>http://www.pia.gov.ph/?m=12&fi=p090618.htm&no=14
>>
>>Way to go Davao mappers!
>>
>>So, how was the workshop last Saturday?
>>
>>
>>Eugene / seav
>
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:28:33 +0800
From: Andre Marcelo-Tanner <andre at enthropia.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OpenStreetMap Philippines Community Survey
To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
Message-ID: <4A40CA71.6060002 at enthropia.com>
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>From Neil:
Just recently I've browsed my yahoo spam folder and found that your
mails along with those from 2 others of osm-ph were categorized as spam!
Yes, I agree with the formation of a "formal legal entity".
----- Original Message ----
From: Andre Marcelo-Tanner <andre at enthropia.com>
To: nbnacario at yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2009 12:11:26 PM
Subject: OpenStreetMap Philippines Community Survey
Hi,
I am contacting you in regards to OpenStreetMap in the Philippines. In
case you don't know me yet, my name is Andre Marcelo-Tanner, I am from
Enthropia Inc., a company in the Philippines which is helping OSM
Philippines grow. Since we found that you are an active contributor to
OSM in the Philippines, we wanted to get your opinion as part of the
community on a very important issue:
"The formation of a formal legal entity to represent OpenStreetMap in
the Philippines"
There is some starting discussion on the mailing list already at
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000877.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000879.html
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2009-May/000883.html
We would greatly appreciate comments, even a simple yes or no from each
member of the community as we know this is a community project and thus
the community should always have a say in everything.
Please send your replies to talk-ph at openstreetmap.org so that the
discussion will be public and everyone can join in.
Thank you very much for your time,
Andre Marcelo-Tanner
Enthropia Inc.
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:46:27 +0800
From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Subject: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits
To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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In the absence of max_speed data in osmph roads, I'm looking at
putting default values for garmin gps routing. The Philippine law is
not very helpful and is probably obsolete:
http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1964/ra_4136_1964.html
See
CHAPTER IV TRAFFIC RULES ARTICLE I
Speed Limit and Keeping to the Right
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cheers,
maning
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"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:49:10 +0800
From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Subject: [talk-ph] osm-ph mapper epsg4253 post series
To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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Hi,
I emailed several OSM-ph mappers for a short interview about their
experience in OSM. I intend to post their answers in my blog. This
idea was actually borrowed from the enthropia people (either Ahmed or
Andre mentioned it in several mail discussions). I hope my blog
readers can appreciate these experiences and contribute to OSm as
well. Hopefully, this will be a weekly post until no more osmer
replied to my request.
First post is smackcode.
http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/2009/06/24/smackcode-osm-ph/
--
cheers,
maning
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"Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:34:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: ian lopez <ian_lopez_1115 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits
To: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Cc: OSM-PH <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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The said law is obsolete by my standards. However, some major roads post maxspeed limits. From what I know, NLEX has an 80 kilometer per hour speed limit but it probably tolerates anyone until the vehicle reaches 120 kph. (maxspeed:recommended=80; maxspeed:tolerable=120) SLEX, on the other hand, has a 60 kph speed limit from the Calamba exit up to the Alaska Milk area ( http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=14.36649&lon=121.04392&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF ). From that point up to the Nichols toll plaza, the limit is at 80 kph. Also, some stretches of the Pan-Philippine highway may have a 60 kph speed limit. Streets inside downtown areas probably have a 40 kph speed limit (and I doubt the fact that motorists traversing Jose Rizal Avenue in San Pablo are following the obsolete 10 kph limit.)
--- On Thu, 6/25/09, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Subject: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits
To: "osm-ph" <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 2009, 10:46 PM
In the absence of max_speed data in osmph roads, I'm looking at
putting default values for garmin gps routing.? The Philippine law is
not very helpful and is probably obsolete:
http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1964/ra_4136_1964.html
See
CHAPTER IV TRAFFIC RULES ARTICLE I
Speed Limit and Keeping to the Right
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cheers,
maning
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:54:25 +0800
From: Jim Morgan <jim at datalude.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits
To: OSM <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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Wait ... there are traffic laws here!? ;-)
Jim
maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 25 June, 2009 10:46 PM:
> In the absence of max_speed data in osmph roads, I'm looking at
> putting default values for garmin gps routing. The Philippine law is
> not very helpful and is probably obsolete:
> http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1964/ra_4136_1964.html
>
> See
> CHAPTER IV TRAFFIC RULES ARTICLE I
> Speed Limit and Keeping to the Right
>
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:23:03 +0100
From: "Ronny Ager-Wick - Develo Ltd." <raw at develo.ltd.uk>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] philippine speed limits
To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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Hehehe, I was quite surprised myself!
Usually when they pull me over, the police will invent some laws on the
spot or refer to an ancient sign that everyone, including themselves,
ignore - if it's even visible. But of course they decided to enforce it
right now, while 350 other cars are breaking the exact same law during
the time we argue about it - yey! Yep, can't help but to love those guys
:) Can't be easy though, enforcing laws most people don't know exist.
Fines also seem to be random, but luckily it's possible to bargain...
Would still prefer a more structured and fair system though.
People lose respect for the law when it's ridiculous, irrelevant or both
- something which is painfully evident.
I think they should make the traffic laws a wiki! At least someone would
update them every now and then :)
Ronny.
Jim Morgan wrote:
> Wait ... there are traffic laws here!? ;-)
>
> Jim
>
> maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 25 June, 2009 10:46 PM:
>
>> In the absence of max_speed data in osmph roads, I'm looking at
>> putting default values for garmin gps routing. The Philippine law is
>> not very helpful and is probably obsolete:
>> http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra1964/ra_4136_1964.html
>>
>> See
>> CHAPTER IV TRAFFIC RULES ARTICLE I
>> Speed Limit and Keeping to the Right
>>
>>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:16:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: jeff fermo <jefffermo at yahoo.com>
Subject: [talk-ph] RFC: importing Palawan roads
To: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
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Hi, Im the guy sir george tujan was talking about (rider for Palawan), I can verify a subset of that map and compare it with actual gps tracks. by the way I just started my actual GPS tracking last sunday and i really enjoyed it. this is how I did my actual ride.
tracking method/interval: time/1sec
lock on road: off
speed: 20-40Km/h straight road, 15-20Km/h curved road
open for suggestion on how I should do my gps tracking
Regards,
jeff
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:40:52 +0800
From: George Tujan <gtujan at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing Palawan roads
To: jeff fermo <jefffermo at yahoo.com>
Cc: talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
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Hi Jeff,
Nice to know you enjoyed it, give it a few days and you'll be addicted
heheheh. Don't forget to tag your gpx traces with "philippines" and
maybe add a "palawan" tag as well
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:16 AM, jeff fermo<jefffermo at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Im the guy sir george tujan was talking about (rider for Palawan), I can verify a subset of that map and compare it with actual gps tracks. by the way I just started my actual GPS tracking last sunday and i really enjoyed it. this is how I did my actual ride.
> tracking method/interval: time/1sec
> lock on road: off
> speed: 20-40Km/h straight road, 15-20Km/h curved road
> open for suggestion on how I should do my gps tracking
>
> Regards,
> jeff
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:33:22 +0800
From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing Palawan roads
To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
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welcome jeff!
Let me know how we can help you in verfiying the data. I can send you
the files either as GIS format or if you are using Garmin GPS, a
custom Palawan map you can in your unit.
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:40 AM, George Tujan<gtujan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> Nice to know you enjoyed it, give it a few days and you'll be addicted
> heheheh. Don't forget to tag your gpx traces with "philippines" and
> maybe add a "palawan" tag as well
>
> On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:16 AM, jeff fermo<jefffermo at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Im the guy sir george tujan was talking about (rider for Palawan), I can verify a subset of that map and compare it with actual gps tracks. by the way I just started my actual GPS tracking last sunday and i really enjoyed it. this is how I did my actual ride.
>> tracking method/interval: time/1sec
>> lock on road: off
>> speed: 20-40Km/h straight road, 15-20Km/h curved road
>> open for suggestion on how I should do my gps tracking
>>
>> Regards,
>> jeff
>>
>>
>>
>>
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