[talk-ph] Chartered Cities

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Hi Marloue,

Great that you brought this topic up since I mentioned in my old email the
problem of representing chartered and independent cities. I'll paste my
original piece here for reference:

*III. Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent Component Cities*
>
> How do we handle the case of Highly-urbanized Cities and Independent
> Component Cities? boundary=administrative implies an administration
> delineation of sorts (e.g., the area delineated by the boundaries of Rizal
> province is under the jurisdiction of the Provincial Government of Rizal).
> HUCs and ICCs are administratively independent of their provinces (save from
> unusual exceptions depending on the City Charter, like Mandaue City
> residents being able to vote for Cebu Provincial positions despite being an
> HUC). For example, Cebu City is a HUC and so the Cebu Provincial Government
> has no legal say over the territory of Cebu CIty (except for the limited
> case of paying costs to Cebu City for "hosting" the Cebu Provincial
> Capitol). (This has resulted in a lot of legal battle between Cebu City and
> Cebu Province, like the dispute on who has jurisdiction over Osmena Circle
> in Cebu City.)
>
> (See this Wikipedia article section regarding independent cities:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_of_the_Philippines#Independent_cities)
>


My proposal is that provincial boundaries should exclude these cities. So
Benguet's borders will have Baguio City as an enclave while Cebu province's
borders will exclude Cebu City, Mandaue City, and Lapu-Lapu City. So Davao
del Sur's northern border will be Davao City's southern border.


Eugene / seav


On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Marloue Pidor <murlwe at mail2engineer.com>wrote:

>  I created a separate thread for this to give focus to the original topic.
>
> What I said is actually true, in March 1, 1937 (but Araw ng Dabaw is in
> March 16) Davao City is inaugurated by President Manuel L. Quezon as a
> chartered city by then Davao City is separated from Davao del Sur. Unlike
> Davao del Sur, Davao City doesn't have a Governor. Well, actually we are not
> insisting, in fact most of us does not know that Davao City is separate to
> any provinces it is already separate and that includes Zamboanga City and
> Puerto Princesa (correct me if I'm wrong).
>
> It is also correct that for statistical purposes DC is grouped under Davao
> del Sur. That is why the City Government announces before in tri-media not
> to fill in the "Province" part of any government forms. To separate the
> Davao City data from Davao del Sur.
>
> Here's some reference:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_city
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davao_City
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboanga_City
> http://www.nscb.gov.ph/ru11/davao_city/default.htm
>
> murlwe
>
> <-----Original Message----->
> >From: Eugene Alvin Villar [seav80 at gmail.com]
> >Sent: 4/30/2009 8:28:19 PM
> >To: murlwe at mail2engineer.com
> >Cc: emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com;talk-ph at openstreetmap.org
> >Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Revisiting the admin_level values
> forboundary=administrative
> >
> >Hi Marloue,
> >
> >Slightly off-topic question. Since you're from Davao City, are residents
> of the
> >city adamant about insisting that Davao City is separate from Davao del
> Sur?
> >*Some* people from Zamboanga City are positively vocal (and sometimes
> actually
> >hostile!) whenever people say they are part of Zamboanga del Sur[1].
> >
> >Many maps of the Philippines simplify the country's administrative
> situation by
> >making ALL cities (except those in Metro Manila) be "part" of a province.
> The
> >National Statistical Coordination Board actually groups Davao City under
> Davao
> >del Sur[2], but only for statistical purposes..
> >
> >
> >Eugene / seav
> >
> >----------
> >[1] http://www.zamboanga.com/html/terrorism_attack_on_zamboanga_city.htm
> >
> >[2]
> >
> http://www.nscb.gov.ph/activestats/psgc/municipality.asp?muncode=112402000&regcode=11&provcode=24
> >
> >
> >
> >
>


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