[talk-ph] osm-ph GPS map for the blind

[maning sambale]

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On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maning,
>
> Please check out the accessibility OSM mailing list
> <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/accessibility> for more ideas.
> That's where I directed one of them.
>
> It's cool to see that they are already using OSM data. I wasn't sure if they
> were already using it or not when they dropped by my blog.
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 6:01 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,  I just came home from a meeting with 2 blind guys.  They are
>> asking our assistance in providing map data for a GPS application for
>> the blind.
>>
>> @ Eugene, they know mentioned your blog and that's probably how they
>> stumbled upon OSM-PH.
>>
>> They showed me how to navigate using a symbian phone and bluetooth GPS
>> using loadstone ( http://www.loadstone-gps.com/ ).  Using loadstone
>> and a screenreader, the phone speaks the estimated distance and
>> heading of a point (i.e. 50 meters northeast of Jolibee).  Cool!
>>
>> The data they are using came from Openstreetmap.   Even cooler!
>>
>> There are tools to convert OSM data into a loadstone database and I
>> was able to successfully convert some of them already.  What they want
>> is an easier approach to load the data into their phones, something
>> like a one-click download page and then copy-paste.  I am planning to
>> provide this data regularly similar to the Garmin GPS map.
>>
>> I am sending this to the list if anyone is interested to volunteer to
>> help them as well.  Some wishes:
>> 1. Data conversion - the current converters parses an OSM file and
>> creates a CSV of POIs and road intersections.  We can expand the
>> converter to include other OSM data that can be useful for them (i.e
>> building names, establishment entrance, removing non-essential words
>> in a name like the word "Street").  To be able to subdivide the whole
>> Philippines into manageable chunks.  Converting the whole Philippines
>> into one big loadstone file makes the application run slow.
>> 2. Data collection useful for blind navigation - they said our current
>> data (at least for Metro Manila and Davao) is good enough but we can
>> improve them further for blind navigation and disability access in
>> general. A rough example would be for mapping POIs, consider locating
>> the node near the entrance of the establishment.  There maybe other
>> things and I hope we can brainstorm on this later.  Some info
>> available in the wiki:
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_for_the_blind
>> 3. Cheap bluetooth GPS - Assist in providing GPS vendor list (local
>> and international) that can provide a discounted rate for purchasing
>> GPS devices.
>> 4. Special request for Ed and waypoints.ph - the also want the
>> waypoints.ph data included probably as a separate loadstone database.
>> The current download process in the waypoints.ph site requires
>> captcha, screenreaders can't read captcha images.  Maybe we can
>> explore other schemes for them to download your POIs and routes?
>> 5. Explore conversion of OSM data to other phone apps like gpsmid and
>> Nokia GPS LMX files (landmarks).
>>
>> If anyone is interested, I hope it's OK for the list members to have
>> the discussion here.  I am very excited to pursue this little project
>> (even if a very small percentage will use the data) because it will
>> greatly help the Filipino Blind community expand their mobility
>> independence.
>>
>> --
>> cheers,
>> maning
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cheers,
maning
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