[talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in Metro Manila

Mon Oct 5 04:08:42 BST 2009

> There's also many other platforms to look at as well .. Ushahidi/SwiftRiver
> is in this vein.
Swiftriver looks interesting when we want to filter information useful
for tactical and strategic planning.

Another wishlist would be to integrate Google's MapMaker road tiles.
The flood has now receded in Marikina, but still present in many areas
along Laguna Lake.  Google mapmaker's road is good in many of these
areas.  Might be good to add a google road layer as another option.

> Mikel
>
> ________________________________
> From: Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
> To: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gdmail.com>
> Cc: Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>; osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
> Sent: Sunday, October 4, 2009 4:09:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood
> victims in Metro Manila
>
> Hi Mikel and Maning,
>
> Who has access to customizing the interface? A possible wish item is to have
> a traditional form for people to enter an issue in case they don't know how
> to pinpoint the location on a map. But I think this *might* require a
> separate database table so an alternative to that is to let people place an
> approximate location and then have others (or admin-level people) move the
> location to the correct spot.
>
> Eugene
>
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 10:57 PM, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Again big thanks to Mikel.
>>
>> Here's for beta review our OSM-PH Post-Disaster Response Reporting:
>>
>> http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/
>>
>> This webmap reporting scheme hopes to gather info on the post-disaster
>> rebuilding efforts.
>>
>> Features:
>> - Any visitor can add a geocoded report on what needs to be done within
>> the
>> area (garbage collection, drainage clearing, etc.)
>> - Other users can comment on the posted problem
>> - Other users can mark the problem as fixed or re-open the report
>> - Download the points as GPX format which can be integrated to a GIS
>> system
>> or a GPS for navigation
>> - Monitor reported bugs in given boundingbox via rss feeds
>> i.e. reports in Marikina
>>
>> http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/osb-cgi/getRSSfeed?b=14.60541&t=14.65955&l=121.06386&r=121.15141
>>
>> Other tasks:
>> - monitor and update reports
>> - create pages compiling reports according to type and admin jurisdiction
>> - coordinate dissemination of reports to concerned agencies who can
>> help fix the problem.
>>
>> If the group feels that yet-another-webmap is useful for assisting the
>> recovery efforts of this disaster, please disseminate this info.  I
>> already communicated this webmap facility to the typhoonondoy people,
>> I hope they find it useful as well.
>>
>> cheers,
>> maning
>>
>> On 10/1/09, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > As requested, I've set up an OpenStreetBugs instance for collecting
>> > reports
>> > in the Phillipines
>> > If anyone wants to work on the code, contacting me directly, and I can
>> > give
>> > you credentials to access the site.
>> >
>> > http://osb.maps.jsintl.org/
>> >
>> > I totally agree that we don't have an OSM agenda. If there's places
>> > where
>> > OSM tech can help, great.
>> > Generally we have an awesome community spirit, so we can pitch on
>> > whatever
>> > project is making moves.
>> >
>> > That said, happy to try and install other pieces of software if needed.
>> >
>> > -Mikel
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ________________________________
>> > From: Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
>> > To: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
>> > Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 8:59:56 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood
>> > victims in Metro Manila
>> >
>> > Let's take note that any solution does *not* need to have OSM data
>> > involved.
>> > We do not need to push the OSM agenda right now since this is an
>> > emergency
>> > situation.
>> >
>> > What the OSM community can do right now is to continue improving the OSM
>> > map
>> > data in the most affected areas: Marikina, Pasig, Cainta, and to a
>> > lesser
>> > degree, eastern Quezon City, Antipolo, San Mateo, Taytay, and the
>> > coastal
>> > areas of Laguna de Bay.
>> >
>> > OSM data can be just a base (GIS loadable) map to all the user-generated
>> > points.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 6:59 PM, maning sambale
>> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >>
>> >>>Just additional updates.  I have initiated contacts with other groups
>> >>>on possible collaboration.
>> >>
>> >>>It seems a lot of work has been done already by
>> >>http://sites.google.com/site/ondoymanila/home.  See our discussion
>> >>>here:
>>
>> >> >>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy
>> >>
>> >>>I don't know if there is room for us to get involve right now (my
>> >>>extinct says there is).
>> >>
>> >>>Red Cross Rizal has its own webmap:
>> >>> http://www.mapcentral.ph/pnrc/rizalchapter/-
>> >>>But they are requesting if we can provide info on road accessibility
>> >>>(roads passable by small vehicles, truck only, speedboat, etc.)
>> >>
>> >>>All my thoughts are in the wiki:
>> >>
>>
>> >> >>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy
>> >>
>> >>Before we implement something, we need to collectively decide what we
>> >>>as a group can contribute.
>> >>
>> >>>cheers,
>> >>>maning
>> >>
>> >>>On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:34 PM, maning sambale
>> >>
>> >><emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Hi,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I have updated the wikipage:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I tried to compile resources discussed in the mailinglist.  Please
>> >>>> add
>> >>>> more ideas on how we can help.
>> >>>> At the moment I think we should start improving data on affected
>> >>>> areas:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Team/philippines_ondoy#Data_updates
>> >>>>
>> >>>> cheers,
>> >>>> maning
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:39 AM, maning sambale
>> >>>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> @ michael cole
>> >>>>> Let's wait till mikel maron set-up something for us.  In the
>> >>>>> meantime,
>> >>>>> please help compiling more data on which areas have been affected.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Michael Cole <colemichae at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>> How much space you need on server?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Regards Michael Cole.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Thursday 01 October 2009 9:33:56 am maning sambale wrote:
>> >>>>>>> Hi,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Just got back online.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:45 PM, Mikel Maron
>> >>>>>>> <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> > Are you on Skype/IM?
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Skype: mikelmaron
>> >>>>>>> > gtalk: mikel.maron
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > 1) We can probably get you a server somewhere .. is it ok if
>> >>>>>>> > it's
>> >>>>>>> > in the
>> >>>>>>> > US? What sort of access do you need? Do you have a domain?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Any server would be very useful.  We don't have a domain at the
>> >>>>>>> moment.  Perhaps openstreetmap.org.ph can be used.
>> >>>>>>> @ Andre and Ahmed, is this OK?  Please help get this going.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> > 2) Mashups .. are you all collecting sources of data?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Yes, mashups would be helpful.  I just got a mapinfo file of the
>> >>>>>>> extent of flooding from Darthmouth Flood Research.  I'll see what
>> >>>>>>> I
>> >>>>>>> can do with this data.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> > I'd suggest starting a catalog on the wiki, a subpage to the
>> >>>>>>> > Philippines
>> >>>>>>> > project page, or subpage to the HOT page
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'll start working on this one.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> > We'd then look to pull those data sources together somehow ..
>> >>>>>>> > perhaps
>> >>>>>>> > through just an OpenLayers instance, or through GeoCommons
>> >>>>>>> > (andrew
>> >>>>>>> > turner
>> >>>>>>> > cc'd)
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > 3) For data collection applications, OpenStreetBugs could be
>> >>>>>>> > stood
>> >>>>>>> > up ..
>> >>>>>>> > but is there widely available net access right now?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This is one of the useful things I see we can do.  Set-up
>> >>>>>>> openstreetbug interface for people to report what they need.  Food
>> >>>>>>> ,
>> >>>>>>> electricity, water, garbage collection, etc.
>> >>>>>>> After the rescue and retrieval operations, rebuilding would take a
>> >>>>>>> long haul.  We nned to supply info to public utility operators
>> >>>>>>> what
>> >>>>>>> areas need immediate action.  I can ask other people to provide
>> >>>>>>> summary reports of the data gathered from "openstreetbug" to
>> >>>>>>> respective utility companies.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> People with internet connection can help report these areas.  Most
>> >>>>>>> of
>> >>>>>>> them are in the news but sadly no one is compiling all these info
>> >>>>>>> for
>> >>>>>>> utilty companies to respond strategically.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> > Would an SMS based application be a better fit for the
>> >>>>>>> > situation?
>> >>>>>>> > We'd
>> >>>>>>> > only need a PH mobile phone set up to FrontlineSMS over there,
>> >>>>>>> > and
>> >>>>>>> > we
>> >>>>>>> > could set up Ushahidi anywhere
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> This is also possible.  But don't how difficult to set-up.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> >>>>>>> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> > To: Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com>
>> >>>>>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 11:59:04 PM
>> >>>>>>> > Subject: Fwd: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood
>> >>>>>>> > victims
>> >>>>>>> > in
>> >>>>>>> > Metro  Manila
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > mikel,
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Can the Humanitarian OSM Team, help us?
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > cheers,
>> >>>>>>> > maning
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >>>>>>> > From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> > Date: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM
>> >>>>>>> > Subject: need help on mapping for ondoy/Kestana flood victims in
>> >>>>>>> > Metro
>> >>>>>>> > Manila To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>, osm-talk
>> >>>>>>> > <talk at openstreetmap.org>
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Hi,
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > In case people in the international community didn't know, the
>> >>>>>>> > Philippines (capital and surrounding provinces) were badly hit
>> >>>>>>> > by
>> >>>>>>> > tropical cylcone ondoy/kestana the past week [1].
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > My family was affected as well, but we are OK now.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Current efforts are now towards search, rescue and relief.  As a
>> >>>>>>> > mapping community I feel we need to do something and contribute.
>> >>>>>>> > We
>> >>>>>>> > need to document whatever information we can compile so that
>> >>>>>>> > volunteers, relief workers, and government agencies can respond
>> >>>>>>> > to
>> >>>>>>> > the
>> >>>>>>> > needs.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > The recovery efforts may take a few more weeks and we need to
>> >>>>>>> > sustain
>> >>>>>>> > activities to restore vital public utilities to affected areas.
>> >>>>>>> > Some
>> >>>>>>> > members of the OSM-PH has started creating webmap based on OSM
>> >>>>>>> > to
>> >>>>>>> > document what is currently happening on the ground [2].
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > I appeal to the whole OSM community to help us in this project.
>> >>>>>>> > What
>> >>>>>>> > we currently need are:
>> >>>>>>> > 1. A temporary server space we can use.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > 2. Create mashups on related information about the disaster (osm
>> >>>>>>> > data
>> >>>>>>> > for Metro Manila and adjacent provinces is good enough as a map
>> >>>>>>> > background), news feeds, location of evacuation sites, missing
>> >>>>>>> > persons
>> >>>>>>> > list.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > 3. An interface in which users can report what is happening on
>> >>>>>>> > the
>> >>>>>>> > ground, (I'm thinking of an openstreetbug interface)
>> >>>>>>> >  i.e. This street in unpassable due to floods. This street needs
>> >>>>>>> > water.  This street has no electricity.  Too much garbage on
>> >>>>>>> > this
>> >>>>>>> > street please collect now.
>> >>>>>>> >  This way communities can report problems and hopefully close
>> >>>>>>> > "bugs".
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > I lack the technical skills to do this but I am willing to
>> >>>>>>> > coordinate
>> >>>>>>> > efforts in some areas and collect field data around my mapping
>> >>>>>>> > area.
>> >>>>>>> > Please help us do this project.  The hope is the information we
>> >>>>>>> > gather
>> >>>>>>> > and synthesize would be helpful.
>> >>>>>>> > We do not need anything sophisticated at the moment we just need
>> >>>>>>> > something running ASAP.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > Thanks in advance.
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Ketsana_%282009%29
>> >>>>>>> > [2] http://www.umapper.com/maps/view/id/42152
>> >>>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>>> > cheers,
>> >>>>>>> > maning
>> >>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>> >>>>>>> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
>> >>>>>>> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> >
>> >>>>>>> > --
>> >>>>>>> > cheers,
>> >>>>>>> > maning
>> >>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>> > "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>> >>>>>>> > wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
>> >>>>>>> > blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>>>> > ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
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>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> cheers,
>> >>>>> maning
>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>> >>>>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
>> >>>>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> cheers,
>> >>>> maning
>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>> >>>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
>> >>>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> >>>>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>
>> >>cheers,
>> >>>maning
>> >>>------------------------------------------------------
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>> cheers,
>> maning
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cheers,
maning
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