[talk-ph] General strategy to using bing imagery in areas with no active OSMer (was Re: Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use)

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

Martijn has updated his tool for determining the date of the Bing
imagery. Now you can see how many more zoom levels are there. I think
this may make it easier to spot more Bing imagery in the Philippines.

For example here is Puerto Galera:
http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bing/?lat=13.495687421588386&lon=120.9321205854468&z=12


On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:08 AM, maning sambale
<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
> I updated the wiki for the date of imagery using the site in this blog:
> http://oegeo.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/bing-aerial-photos-for-openstreetmap-great-but-are-they-recent/
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/High-resolution_imagery#Bing_Imagery
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Anthony G. Balico
> <anthony.balico at gmail.com> wrote:
>> You're welcome Noli, happy to help.
>>
>> Hurry with the experiments and there's a looot of things to do :)
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 23:24 +1100, Noli Sicad wrote:
>>> Hi Anthony,
>>>
>>> Now I got it.
>>>
>>> I will do experimental editing and tracing.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot.
>>>
>>> Regards, Noli
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/4/10, Anthony G. Balico <anthony.balico at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hi Noli,
>>> >
>>> > You may want to fire up a bit your josm using this little tweak
>>> >     > java -Xmx512m -jar josm-latest.jar
>>> >
>>> > I installed the "imagery" plugin instead, and its working great you may
>>> > give it a try (a josm restart is necessary after installing a new
>>> > plugin).
>>> >
>>> > After that, just simply download map from osm (3rd from left on the menu
>>> > icons), box your area of interest (not so large otherwise you get an
>>> > error).  By default it will download only osm data but i suggest you
>>> > tick the "raw gps data" to pull the gps data from the db as well.  After
>>> > both were download, click "Imagery" from the main menu then choose Bing
>>> > Sat.  Now you're good to go :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Anthony
>>> >
>>> > On Sat, 2010-12-04 at 22:42 +1100, Noli Sicad wrote:
>>> >> How do I start traces Bing Maps Imagerty (e.g. Iligan) using JOSM.
>>> >>
>>> >> Steps
>>> >> 1. Download the latest josm-latest.jar
>>> >> 2. In terminal (linux)
>>> >>     > java -jar josm-latest.jar
>>> >> 3. Install wmsplugin (for Bing Maps)
>>> >>
>>> >> What is next to do?
>>> >>
>>> >> 4.File -> New New Layer?
>>> >> 5.
>>> >> 6.
>>> >> 7,
>>> >>
>>> >> Any short tutorial?
>>> >>
>>> >> I watched the JOSM videos by Steve Coast. It seems not applicable to
>>> >> tracing maps.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >> Noli
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On 12/1/10, maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> > I'm posting this to generate insights on how we should maximize and
>>> >> > accelerate data contributions in bing covered areas.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > At the moment there are a lot of bing imagery with minimal active
>>> >> > ph-osmer (perhaps main reason is the lack of imagery).  I am
>>> >> > predicting that this will change very soon when other people start to
>>> >> > see that their area of interest has his-res imagery available.  As a
>>> >> > community, how do we approach the info dissemination so that people
>>> >> > become aware that there is imagery already in "X" town?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Some suggestions:
>>> >> > 1. Lets create a coverage list and add them here:
>>> >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery
>>> >> > . Do we have complete coverage sweep:
>>> >> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage#Philippines ?
>>> >>
>>> >> > 2. Check nearby editors covered by bing and remind them that imagery
>>> >> > is now available (via OSM messaging).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > 3.  "Seed" the area by tracing roads (temporarily tagged as
>>> >> > highway=road).
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Adding stub roads can give an impression of completeness.  Hence, it
>>> >> > can be counter-productive.  Personally, I have reservations on point 3
>>> >> > (but lack the patience to wait for a passionate contributor in "X"
>>> >> > town) :) .
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On the long term, the main strategy would be to encourage local osm
>>> >> > groups within these imagery covered areas.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Any ideas?
>>> >>
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