[talk-ph] Ultimate mapping challenge: marking the Station Balanacan in OSM

Ed Garcia eppgarcia at gmail.com
Fri Aug 12 13:03:39 BST 2011


some years ago I tried locating LAG2 when I frequented the Caliraya area,
but could not find it.  My old GPS that time (Magelan GPS315, with position
error of about 14 meters)  kept on pointing me to an area several meters
north of the junction where I could not find any possible markers.

Maybe my GPS was not accurate enough, or maybe the data I was using was
converted wrongly (came from PRS92 and recalculated to wgs84), or the marker
is gone, or the brass rod is indeed right at the junction of the two roads.

Anyway, here is the history of the coordinates ...

Below are the original values of the coordinates in PRS92.  To convert it to
WGS84, I first manually inputted them into GPS Utility which was set to
Luzon Datum while I was keying-in the values (no PRS92 on GPS Utility back
then).  Then, I changed the datum on GPS Utility which automatically
recalculated the values into WGS84.

This was based on what I have been told, that the difference between PRS92
and Luzon datum is very very minimal.  Btw, the difference between Luzon and
WGS84 is over a hundred meters.

Perhaps Maning can do some recalculations based on the original PRS92?

H  SOFTWARE NAME & VERSION
I  GPSU 4.03  REGISTERED to 'sloovey'
S DateFormat=yy-mm-dd
S Timezone=8
S Units=M,M
S SymbolSet=0

H R DATUM
M E    Luzon Philippines 048 -6.9400000E+01 -3.7264640E-05 -133 -77 -51

H  COORDINATE SYSTEM
U  LAT LON DMS

F ID---- Latitude      Longitude      T O  Alt(m)   Comment
W ABR1   N17°36'16.84" E120°36'49.89" I E       0.0 ABRA
W ABR2   N17°34'22.27" E120°54'09.10" I E       0.0 ABRA
W ARA1   N15°45'31.27" E121°33'42.42" I E       0.0 AURORA
W ARA2   N16°08'41.60" E121°57'21.90" I E       0.0 AURORA
W ARA3   N16°25'00.80" E122°14'17.45" I E       0.0 AURORA
W BGT1   N16°24'05.20" E120°38'41.85" I E       0.0 BENGUET
W BGT2   N16°35'55.95" E120°45'39.28" I E       0.0 BENGUET
W BGT3   N16°36'03.38" E120°45'41.25" I E       0.0 BENGUET
W BLN1   N14°56'32.01" E120°52'47.62" I E       0.0 BULACAN
W BLN2   N14°50'53.22" E120°45'48.04" I E       0.0 BULACAN
W BLN3   N14°54'20.77" E121°02'29.98" I E       0.0 BULACAN
W BLN4   N15°11'29.35" E121°02'34.71" I E       0.0 BULACAN
W BTG1   N13°49'13.21" E120°57'20.62" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG2   N14°05'02.10" E120°37'09.73" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG3   N13°40'30.09" E121°26'59.60" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG4   N13°32'08.42" E121°05'50.70" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG5   N13°38'13.43" E121°02'04.03" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG6   N13°38'13.98" E121°11'38.09" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG7   N13°37'24.68" E121°04'51.35" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTG8   N13°44'35.19" E120°56'46.59" I E       0.0 BATANGAS
W BTN1   N14°35'06.85" E120°34'28.59" I E       0.0 BATAAN
W BTN2   N14°22'52.15" E120°34'30.50" I E       0.0 BATAAN
W BTN3   N14°26'37.79" E120°29'50.07" I E       0.0 BATAAN
W CVT1   N14°16'57.90" E120°59'44.17" I E       0.0 CAVITE
W CVT2   N14°16'58.43" E120°51'49.28" I E       0.0 CAVITE
W IFG1   N16°55'19.86" E121°03'00.82" I E       0.0 IFUGAO
W ILN1   N18°23'47.43" E120°35'44.45" I E       0.0 ILOCOS NORTE
W ILN2   N17°58'11.10" E120°30'45.59" I E       0.0 ILOCOS NORTE
W ILN3   N18°05'10.64" E120°48'48.30" I E       0.0 ILOCOS NORTE
W ILS1   N17°35'53.36" E120°23'23.21" I E       0.0 ILOCOS SUR
W ILS2   N17°07'58.01" E120°26'32.72" I E       0.0 ILOCOS SUR
W ILS3   N16°58'50.36" E120°44'13.31" I E       0.0 ILOCOS SUR
W LAG1   N14°15'51.25" E121°23'48.53" I E       0.0 LAGUNA
W LAG2   N14°26'12.62" E121°26'52.34" I E       0.0 LAGUNA
W LAG3   N14°11'00.92" E121°08'46.49" I E       0.0 LAGUNA
W LAG4   N14°20'04.08" E121°03'10.64" I E       0.0 LAGUNA
W LAG5   N14°20'37.90" E121°02'54.05" I E       0.0 LAGUNA
W LUN1   N16°35'02.94" E120°18'11.21" I E       0.0 LA UNION
W LUN2   N16°21'37.74" E120°21'36.44" I E       0.0 LA UNION
W LUN3   N16°15'37.22" E120°21'58.28" I E       0.0 LA UNION
W MMA0   N14°38'12.09" E121°02'30.07" I E       0.0 MANILA
W MMA1   N14°32'19.06" E121°02'18.24" I E       0.0 MANILA
W MMA5   N14°39'28.40" E121°04'06.26" I E       0.0 MANILA
W MMA6   N14°35'59.16" E120°58'18.25" I E       0.0 MANILA
W MPV1   N17°05'39.22" E120°58'03.60" I E       0.0 MOUNTAIN PROVINCE
W PMG1   N15°08'30.22" E120°37'54.75" I E       0.0 PAMPANGA
W PNG2   N16°23'41.54" E119°52'49.35" I E       0.0 PANGASINAN
W PNG3   N16°03'53.52" E120°06'23.69" I E       0.0 PANGASINAN
W PNG4   N15°54'46.30" E120°38'25.41" I E       0.0 PANGASINAN
W PNG5   N15°52'09.25" E120°15'08.49" I E       0.0 PANGASINAN
W PNG6   N16°02'45.87" E120°19'39.03" I E       0.0 PANGASINAN
W RZL    N14°29'02.31" E121°11'11.83" I E       0.0 RIZAL
W RZL2   N14°27'53.61" E121°11'46.73" I E       0.0 RIZAL
W KAY2   N17°24'33.60" E121°26'31.83" I E       0.0 KALINGA APAYAO
W KAY3   N18°14'23.89" E121°22'08.80" I E       0.0 KALINGA APAYAO
W QZN1   N14°06'12.00" E122°00'50.11" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN2   N14°42'13.15" E122°19'34.67" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN3   N14°55'36.18" E121°48'19.47" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN4   N14°37'59.74" E121°56'19.53" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN5   N14°39'59.30" E121°36'14.27" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN6   N14°11'22.51" E121°43'38.33" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN7   N15°12'45.44" E121°24'49.04" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN8   N13°34'13.84" E122°33'55.45" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN9   N13°47'14.78" E122°03'32.98" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN10  N13°35'41.55" E122°19'25.74" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN11  N13°31'34.65" E122°24'18.23" I E       0.0
W QZN12  N13°44'25.08" E122°27'50.89" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W QZN13  N13°09'50.97" E122°35'52.76" I E       0.0 QUEZON
W PNG7   N16°04'27.89" E120°20'03.20" I E       0.0 PANGASINAN
W TRC1   N15°28'44.14" E120°35'52.67" I E       0.0 TARLAC
W TRC2   N15°19'28.81" E120°25'27.63" I E       0.0 TARLAC
W TRC3   N15°36'39.83" E120°22'56.95" I E       0.0 TARLAC
W ZBS1   N15°24'38.67" E119°57'04.12" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES
W ZBS2   N14°59'42.77" E120°07'09.53" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES
W ZBS3   N15°48'26.09" E119°55'24.14" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES
W ZBS4   N15°03'43.22" E120°03'37.96" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES
W ZBS5   N15°00'57.91" E120°03'50.53" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES
W ZBS6   N14°57'11.75" E120°03'27.87" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES
W ZBS7   N14°56'45.73" E120°03'20.04" I E       0.0 ZAMBALES




On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:50 PM, tutubi
<tutubi at backpackingphilippines.com>wrote:

> hmmm...i always pass by unknowingly near LAG2 marker. will try to locate it
> exactly. there's a nearby gas station and the raymond bus terminal there
> near Famy/Siniloan along manila east road
>
> is it a landmark or just the junction of the two roads?
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 4:12 PM, maning sambale <
> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks ed,
>>
>> Has anyone from waypoints  or osm actually visited this reference point?
>>
>> I actually found a few of these markers.
>>
>> Example:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/1287703706
>>
>> My handheld GPS is off by 6.92 meters from the published PRS92
>> coordinates.
>>
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>>
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>>
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