[talk-ph] pier doesn't render

[maning sambale]

Forwarding to the list for further discussion

> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:31 PM, maning sambale
> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> May we move the discussion to the talk-ph list?
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Rally de Leon <ralleon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> so what should be the standard approach on pier where it's use as a
>>> roro service link? (in case of San Agustin, Romblon) the first pier is
>>> for people & those who commuted, then the ferryboat leaves and go the
>>> 2nd pier to load (roro) vehicles
>>>
>>> My concern is: will current inter-island routing (not necessarily
>>> garmin) on other OSM services work on highway=service? will it be
>>> given high (or lowest routing priority) or will the routing algorithm
>>> skip the service road? what's your observation on this?
>>>
>>> any existing examples where pier rendering/routing gives the best
>>> compromise. I know we 'shouldn't tag for the renderer', but since pier
>>> rendering has already matured in most part of the world, the slippy
>>> map may already give a fair indication of the osm-community's intended
>>> tag that we should adapt & teach in PH.
>>>
>>> another issue is the correct placement of ferry terminal. should it be
>>> on the water where ships docked, or the ferry terminal building where
>>> people wait. i haven't checked yet on other maps outside PH, but my
>>> opinion is that it should be the "building" where passengers wait and
>>> buy tickets, which is sometimes located away from the pier and "not
>>> along" the pier's service road or ferry route. Because if it's on
>>> water, there are big seaports with lots of piers which will render
>>> numerous ferry terminals in a single location. I don't think that's
>>> the intention. The only exception is that if somebody forget to
>>> properly map the ferry-terminal building's coordinate, then it can be
>>> placed temporarily where road & ferry route meets.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 10:24 AM, maning sambale
>>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> According to the mkgmap logs:
>>>>
>>>> "Unclosed way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/164190593
>>>> [man_made=pier,name=San Agustin Pier] should be converted as shape but
>>>> the start or end point lies inside the bbox. Skip it."
>>>>
>>>> I normally add a service road within the man_made=pier polygon for routing.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Rally de Leon <ralleon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> for garmin, can we just convert pier to ordinary residential road? (so
>>>>> that it's like any typical road)
>>>>