[talk-ph] Meetup with OSM-PH community for the "Participatory mapping and LGU decision support tools for Disaster Risk Reduction" Project

Ervin Malicdem schadow1 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 10 10:59:23 UTC 2013

Hi All,

Additional photos here. (Included some that were posted in OSMPH FB page.



Ervin M.
*Schadow1 Expeditions* - A Filipino must not be a stranger to his own

On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 5:50 PM, maning sambale
<emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear everyone,
> tl;dr
> It was great event! 11 people joined and I am personally happy to meet new
> people whom I see only as usernames in the OSM editors (JOSM, P2 and iD)
> Photos in FB:
> Here's the summary of our notes thanks to feye and dianne for compiling. :)
> =============
> Attendees
>    - Rally De Leon
>    - Eugene Villar
>    - Erwin Olario
>    - Miguel Martin Menez
>    - Ervin Malicdem
>    - Vanessa Malicdem
>    - John Ernest Caliwag
>    - Leonard Doyle
>    - Maning Sambale
>    - Feye Andal
>    - Dianne Bencito
>    - Photos - 
>    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151727536452597.1073741825.345455082596&type=3
> Discussion and agreements Brief introduction about ESSC
> Maning introduced the Environmental Science for Social Change (ESSC) which
> the WorldBank has partnership on *Participatory Mapping and LGU decision
> support tools for DRR*.
> ESSC is a Jesuit research institution engaged in local, national and
> regional research and dialogue that contribute to an understanding and
> sustainability of community-based environmental management through the
> development of a "science for social change".
> ESSC's approach to environmental mapping makes significant contribution to
> building people's capacities to collectively manage and plan towards an
> improvement of their way of life through a more responsive management of
> the environment.
> Sevaral mapping related project of ESSC includes: Marikina Watershed,
> Community Mapping, IPs (Bukidnon Pulangiyen), FOSS-Geo Training, Forest
> cover monitoring.
> Project Overview (WorldBank-ESSC Partnership)
> Maning presented the ESSC_WB partnership entitled *Participatory Mapping
> and LGU decision support tools for DRR*
> The project is a six month project focusing on providing capacity to local
> government units to "prepare/formulate risk-sensitive land-use plans,
> structural audits of public infrastructure and disaster contingency plans."
> The LGUs need access to hazard and risk data through user friendly tools
> for analyzing this information for specific decisions.
> Major Objectives are:
>    - support growth of OSM
>    - support customization of InaSAFE (impact assessment)
> Activities and Components:
>    - Developing tools and learning materials. Training materials will be
>    largely based on the www.learnosm.org.
>    - Trainings to 5 LGUs and other local partners. The target LGUs are:
>    (Candaba, Guagua, Lubao in Pampanga; Calamba, Bay, Santa Cruz in Laguna).
>       - This is not yet final since we need to secure approval from the
>       DILG and the respective LGU leaders.
>       - ESSC is also looking for local OSM volunteers (trainors) who can
>       help in conducting the training (email emmanuel.sambale at gmail.comif you are interested)
>    - Sharing, distribution and maintenance of data.
>    - Build and nurture partnerships and collaborations.
>       - ESSC is open to interested groups or individuals to participate
>       in the project.
>    - Sharing project outcomes to the public.
>       - Related to OSM-PH, we have committed to co-organize small OSM-PH
>       community events. Our QC office can accommodate small events for OSM-PH.
> The slides are here: 
> http://www.slideshare.net/esambale/essc-osmph-wbproject
> Issues raised/comments
>    - *On the flooding in Candaba, Pampanga*. Ernest mentioned that the
>    flooding in Candaba is partly due to water coming from upstream towns of
>    Bulacan (san Miguel and Dona Remedios Trinidad). Ernest is from San Miguel
>    and has contacts with the current LGU leaders. It would be good to
>    coordinate and share some aspects of the project to San Miguel so that they
>    can also participate if possible. Ernest agreed to initiate the
>    coordination.
>    - *On the lack of active marketing within OSM-PH community to expand
>    user base.* Unlike other community mapping projects (G MapMaker),
>    OSM-PH doesn't do intensive PR and the "marketing" of OSM in the
>    Philippines rely mostly on word-of-mouth. This is understandable since
>    being volunteer group we don't have any dedicated marketing arm. Related to ESSC's
>    project, we will try provide regular updates in our website to support the
>    marketing aspect. If others have ideas on how we can spread the word
>    even more, let's discuss.
>    - *On encouraging the use of local language in the OSM-PH mailinglist.*This talk-ph mailinglist is very much EN language centric. Maning proposes
>    that we encourage the use of other local language to encourage LGUs to post
>    and ask questions. EN maybe intimidating to some people and maybe one
>    reason very few newbies are posting. The group agreed that this is OK
>    and should be encouraged.
>    - *On additional tags for roads that is used by LGUs.* LGUs interested
>    in using OSM data and they are trying to make sense of our road
>    classification scheme. OSM road tagging is mostly by function (motorway,
>    trunk, primary, secondary, oneway, etc.) and physical characteristics
>    (unpaved, concrete, etc). Most LGUs categorize road by administrative
>    jurisdiction (i. e. national road, provincial road, municipal road). There
>    were previous discussion in this list related to this (
>    http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2012-May/003974.html)
>    The group agreed to adopt the designation=* tag to incorporate the LGU
>    categories For example, highway=primary, designation=provincial.
>   However, looking at the above list discussion, there is also a proposed
> highway:admin=* Is this more appropriate or we just adopt designation?
>    - *On the OSM meet-up and schedule of project activities.* To be able
>    to participate in the planned activities, ESSC will post the schedules
>    2 weeks before the activity. For now, the project plan is that LGU
>    trainings will start either by August to September.
>  Related to small meetups, we have a page to coordinate them (
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Events/SkillShare) If you
> have ideas on what topics, please edit that page. Some initial ideas
> discussed during the meeting was:
>    - How to build your own Garmin maps based on OSM. The goal is for
>    others to contribute to improving (style, routing, search) of our OSMPH
>    Garmin map.
>    - Edit sprints. We edit a specific feature in OSM (schools, admin
>    boundaries, etc.)
>    - *On download services that will easily use OSM for non-technical
>    users.* Rally stated that some data users may have difficulty in
>    understanding how they can use the data. He proposed that we build a simple
>    download interface where people can get sample OSM like a CSV of all
>    schools in Metro Manila. This data can be easily viewed in a spreadsheet
>    application without requirning any GIS skills. A related discussion he also
>    raised in the list before (
>    http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2013-February/004322.html).
>    Maning demonstrated he use of GDAL/OGR to extract this kind of data and
>    Eugene also showed the Overpass API to do this. These tools are still
>    difficult for many interested users. Bottom line is that we still need
>    to find ways for people to easily get data from OSM.
> Presentation of Maptastic
> Leonard Doyle of the International Organization for Migration (IOM)
> presented IOM's Maptastic! Project.
> The project's goal is to increase community awareness towards on DRR using
> media campaigns and community mapping.
> The project's initial plan is to conduct community mapping activities to
> 10 barangays that was affected by Typhoon Pablo in Davao Oriental. OSM will
> be the platform of this mapping activity.
> IOM is looking for OSM-PH's support for this project in the form of:
>    - Remote mappers who can help in improving data in the target
>    barangays.
>    - Local mappers who can join in the planned mapping events.
>    - Advise on technologies they can adapt or further develop.
> Details about the project here: 
> http://prezi.com/qlkwjcdepwov/maptastic-mindanao/
> Editing relations in JOSM
> The last part of the meeting was a demonstration by Eugene on how to use
> and edit relations using JOSM. He explained what a relation is and showed
> how to use/and not use relations. Thanks Eugene for the impromptu skill
> sharing! :)
> --
> cheers,
> maning
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