[talk-ph] talk-ph Digest, Vol 64, Issue 17

Jakub Tesinsky talk-ph at kub.cz
Tue Nov 12 05:11:17 UTC 2013


Does anyone know how to use the post-disaster imaginery in JOSM?


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>    1. Re: [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress (Eugene Alvin Villar)
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> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 03:46:38 +0800
> From: Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
> To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress
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> Hello everyone,
>
> Here are several additional HOT tasks:
>
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip
> of
> Iloilo
> http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu
>
> If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has
> Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested
> that a task be created for Coron, Palawan.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Thank you to everyone who has helped in mapping the affected areas.
> >
> > Here are some statistics taken from OSMstats:
> >
> http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries&country=Philippines
> >
> > There have been about 120,000 nodes that have been added in the
> > Philippines in the past 2 days. Though I don't have the exact numbers,
> that
> > probably translates to around 20,000 buildings. The rest would be new
> > roads, rivers, landuses, and improved coastlines.
> >
> > There have been at least 60 mappers editing in the Philippines in the
> last
> > 2 days. The previous spike in the number of editors was in mid-October
> > after the 7.2 earthquake that hit Bohol (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326
> ).
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hello everyone,
> >>
> >> There are 2 additional HOT Tasks that have been created:
> >>
> >> 1. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 - Mapping villages in Samar and
> Leyte
> >> (just the residential areas and roads, no need for buildings)
> >>
> >> 2. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 - Mapping in detail selected areas
> >> that are known to have been highly affected by the typhoon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Andrew Buck <andrew.r.buck at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >>
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> >>> I agree that wider coverage will be needed and I had hoped that by now
> >>> we would have a better indication of where to map as well.  My reason
> >>> for staying with Tacloban for so long was largely due to lack of
> >>> knowing where else to shift focus to (although I did allude to this a
> >>> bit by suggesting the other villages on the coast northeast of
> >>> Tacloban), more importantly due to a second fact...
> >>>
> >>> When we map an area, it is only really useful for us to map areas that
> >>> the aid organizations we work with will be responding to.  For the aid
> >>> organizations that don't know about, or don't know how to use, our
> >>> map; then no matter how good the coverage is, it doesn't help them.
> >>> This is the main reason I chose to focus on Tacloban.  It is badly hit
> >>> (as were many other places as you rightly point out) but it is also a
> >>> provincial capital, and it is the largest town in the immediate area.
> >>>  Because of this I figured that most of the international response
> >>> would likely be directed there, and since it is mostly the
> >>> international orgs that we tend to work with I figured the map data
> >>> would be most useful there.
> >>>
> >>> Now, that being said I want to make it clear that the explanation
> >>> above is not necessarily an argument for continuing to focus entirely
> >>> on Tacloban, just merely an explanation of why I hadn't directed
> >>> people elsewhere yet.  I agree that we will need to spread out our
> >>> efforts at some point, and that point may be approaching, the question
> >>> is where to focus next.  As I mentioned previously, I think the
> >>> villages along the coast to the northeast will be hard hit (and due to
> >>> their proximity to Tacloban will likely receive international aid).
> >>> There are also villages along the coast to the south of Tacloban that
> >>> will have been hit hard as well since the eye passed directly over
> >>> them.  The eye track will likely have done the most damage, or the
> >>> area to the north of the eye track since the storm rotates
> >>> counterclockwise as it moves westward.
> >>>
> >>> If anyone has better suggestions of where to spread out to I am
> >>> certainly open to them.  Like I said I am not saying we need to stay
> >>> at Tacloban (and the surrounding area) just explaining why I was
> >>> continuing focus there.  I know the storm affected a lot to the west
> >>> as well but I figured this would be trickier to map for two reasons.
> >>> 1) it is a larger area with not such and obvious target for
> >>> international aid, and 2) the wind speeds were lower to the west due
> >>> to the storm being disrupted by the islands.  As for the idea of
> >>> mapping the area affected by the earthquake to the south, my
> >>> understanding (and this could be wrong) was that most of what we could
> >>> do remotely has already been done when the earthquake hit.
> >>>
> >>> So that is all of my reasoning at the current time for our current
> >>> focus.  I hope to begin hearing more concrete info from aid orgs today
> >>> so I might redirect people when I hear from them, but for now my
> >>> advice would be to try to continue with Tacloban (especially the low
> >>> lying areas) and simultaneously spread out into the surrounding
> >>> villages until/unless we get something concrete from an aid org.
> >>>
> >>> - -AndrewBuck
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 11/09/2013 05:25 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
> >>> > Hi,
> >>> >
> >>> > According to Al Jazeera, the death toll could be very high, sadly.
> >>> > And several millions of people have been affected.
> >>> >
> >>> > I'd like to remind that an often-mentioned weakness of OSM is the
> >>> > uneven quality of the coverage, and that it is not because you have
> >>> > a hammer that everything is a nail.
> >>> >
> >>> > So, while Tacloban was indeed hit very badly, and a detailed
> >>> > building map there is undoubtedly useful, it might also be useful
> >>> > if some of the mappers who wish to contribute took a broader view,
> >>> > to map, for example, some of the roads and villages that are
> >>> > visible on (sometimes recent) high resolution Bing imagery
> >>> > (http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/), but sometimes
> >>> > still unmapped in OSM. (Not to mention the rivers).
> >>> >
> >>> > GNS (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GNS) can also be a good
> >>> > source for names, even if it sometimes includes old versions of
> >>> > duplicated nodes with inaccurate location. High resolution imagery
> >>> > can be useful to tell which is right in these cases.
> >>> >
> >>> > Best wishes,
> >>> >
> >>> > Jean-Guilhem
> >>> >
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> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 12:45:51 +0800
> From: Erwin Olario <govvin at gmail.com>
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> Subject: [talk-ph] digitalGlobe imagery - haiyan
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> http://www.digitalglobeblog.com/2013/11/11/typhoonhaiyan/
>
> Press statement:
>
> *On Friday, devastation hit the Philippines. The massively destructive
> typhoon, Haiyan, turned into one of the strongest tropical cyclones ever
> recorded at landfall, with winds estimated at 195 mph, gusts up to 235 mph
> and a storm surge that rose up to 20 feet high. As with any natural
> disaster, rapid, comprehensive, unclassified satellite coverage can be an
> invaluable tool for responding to these major events.*
>
> *On November 07, 2013 at 7 pm EST, several hours before Typhoon Haiyan made
> landfall, DigitalGlobe activated FirstLook
> <http://www.digitalglobe.com/products/insight/firstlook>, an online
> subscription service for emergency managers and enterprise customers that
> provides fast, web-based access to pre- and post-event imagery of natural
> and manmade disasters. In the first few days, following the initial
> devastation, DigitalGlobe?s satellites collected and delivered over 19,000
> square kilometersof imagery in the hardest hit areas, including Tacloban
> City and the surrounding areas.  FirstLook?s frequent revisit times have
> enabled rapid delivery of quality imagery content during this time-critical
> event.*
>
> *Below is a chilling image chip, depicting the impact from typhoon Haiyan.*
>
> *WE NEED YOUR HELP ? JOIN THE CROWD:The scale of the storm?s destruction
> has been massive. In addition to collecting imagery, we need volunteers to
> help us map the devastation. In support of such efforts, DigitalGlobe has
> activated a crowdsourcing campaign, open to anyone willing to help.*
>
> *http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013
> <http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/haiyantyphoon2013>*
>
> *For this campaign, we will be releasing the crowd produced results to the
> open source community. Contact DigitalGlobe?s Tomnod platform team at
> <info at tomnod.com>info at tomnod.com <info at tomnod.com> if you are interested
> in
> receiving access to the Haiyan data.*
>
> *More resources from DigitalGlobe:*
>
> *For media: please use required attribution ?Satellite image courtesy of
> DigitalGlobe? and copyright. See our usage
> policy http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information
> <http://www.digitalglobe.com/usage#usage-information>.*
>
> *For geospatial professionals:here is the catalog ID
> <
> https://browse.digitalglobe.com/imagefinder/showBrowseImage?catalogId=103001002841F600&imageHeight=natres&imageWidth=natres
> >
> you
> can use to quickly access your area of interest.*
>
> *For U.S. government employees: Use your .gov or .mil address to obtain
> access to our high resolution satellite imagery via My DigitalGlobe
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pSr9XqhUe8>, and NGA?s EnhancedView
> program.*
>
> *Download our complete FirstLook Report here
> <http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11>. *
>
> *This area on the west side of Cancabato Bay bore some of the heaviest
> brunt. Debris from the storm surge is seen in the lower left area. You can
> also make out a ?Help Us? sign in front of the Redemptorist Church*
>
> See also DigitalGlobe's FirstLook imagery prepared as a slide
> show<http://www.slideshare.net/DigitalGlobe/ph-typhoon-haiyan2013nov11>
> .
>
>
>
> --
> *Erwin Olario*
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