[talk-ph] Project NOAH asking everyone to map in OSM

[Eugene Alvin Villar]

For Philhealth, the question is if their reference ID is something that
should be added to OSM.

The DOH codes are not actually necessary in OSM, but as the official health
agency of the country, we can tie OSM to DOH's database through the
facility code (instead of matching hospital names which is error-prone). So
that any other database that makes use of DOH's code can find the
geographical location of the hospital by looking at the DOH code in OSM.
(Database engineers will definitely recognize this as similar to using
primary keys in multiple tables.)

>From there, it should be easy to use the DOH facility code to tie to other
databases like Philhealth's, assuming the Philhealth-to-DOH database is
done.


On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 9:13 AM, Erwin Olario <govvin at gmail.com> wrote:

> Another stakeholder in the Philippine health system, Philhealth, uses
> their own reference identification for accredited [1] and un-accredited [2]
> health facilities in the Philippines.
>
> The French OSM mappers [3] tagging convention is like ref:PH:doh or
> ref:PH:phic, for DOH and PHIC/Philhealth, respectively. I think
> "ref:PH:*=*" is less ambiguous than "nat_ref:*=*"
>
> A bit off-topic, but it was interesting to find out that the key ref=* may
> be used to identify companies using their tax identification numbers [4].
>
> [1] https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/view_hosp1.php
> [2] https://gis.philhealth.gov.ph/view_nonaccre.php
> [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:FR:*
> [4] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:vatin
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> On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> My understanding is that you only add another term to the key name (ref=*
>> --> ref:isil=*) if it is highly likely that some other ID or coding system
>> has a higher priority for the basic ref=* tag.
>>
>> For example, I think each World Heritage Site has an assigned reference
>> code by UNESCO. For example, Tubbataha Reefs Natural Park has the reference
>> code 653bis[1], but we should probably not tag it as ref=653bis because the
>> national park may have its own coding system in the Philippine Government.
>> So the tag could be ref:whc=653bis as proposed[2].
>>
>> On the other hand, we have many basic ref=* keys such as:
>>
>> - int_ref=* (international)
>> - nat_ref=* (national)
>> - reg_ref=* (regional)
>> - loc_ref=* (local)
>> - etc.
>>
>> So we could also tag Tubbataha as int_ref=653bis.
>>
>> Basically, as I understand it, adding another term to the key name is
>> only done as a last resort. The only advantage I can see with using
>> ref:doh=* is that its meaning is easier to understand. But that can be
>> easily addressed with proper PH tag documentation in the OSM Wiki.
>>
>> Anyway, I'd like to know what other people think so that we have a rough
>> consensus on what key to use to tag the DOH facility code on hospitals in
>> OSM.
>>
>> Choices:
>>
>> ref=*
>> nat_ref=*
>> ref:doh=*
>>
>> [1] http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/653
>> [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 7:41 PM, maning sambale <
>> emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <seav80 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Can I suggest that we use either ref=* or nat_ref=* tag for the DOH
>>> facility
>>> > code assigned to each hospital? This tag is intended for indicating
>>> > reference numbers/codes/IDs as assigned by some official authority.
>>> >
>>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref
>>> >
>>> > For example, East Avenue Medical Center is assigned the code 504. So we
>>> > should add ref=504 or nat_ref=504 to the hospital POI.
>>>
>>> Sure! I actually tested that yesterday
>>> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/54025002).
>>> I have to correct my tagging and also remove the zeroes.
>>>
>>> From the wiki (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref), the ref
>>> tag is used in various ways by adding namespace.  Should we used
>>> ref:doh=504 like the isil ref
>>> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ref:isil)?
>>>
>>
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