[talk-ph] OSM Module Sprint May 30-June 1, 2014 (Re: Module development and Trainors Training Workshop)

maning sambale emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com
Thu May 29 10:50:49 UTC 2014


Notes here:
https://hackpad.com/LearnOSM-and-ToT-Module-Sprint-6yESa67x1U9

See you then.

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:10 AM, RK Aranas <rk.aranas at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Maning,
>
> I can attend on Friday afternoon or on Sat. Is there an event page/wiki?
>
> -RK
>
> Sent from my Android phone
>
> On May 28, 2014 9:02 AM, "maning sambale" <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Forgot to mention that time is from 9 AM - 4 AM.  You can of course
>> join at anytime.
>> I just need to know who so we can stash more chips or pizza. ;)
>>
>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 7:26 PM, maning sambale
>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear everyone,
>> >
>> > Once again, we invite you for the upcoming module sprint on May 30-June
>> > 1, 2014.
>> > Details below:
>> >
>> > Sprint days: May 30 - June 1
>> > Venue: ESSC Manila Office
>> >
>> > General idea on what will be developed:
>> >
>> > Content
>> > * Improve overall learnosm sections specifically:
>> >   - tasking manager
>> >   - hot-export
>> >   - GPS
>> > * New material to be developed -  Mobile mapping tools
>> > * Develop learning framework -  use SD4CP as an initial basis
>> > * Develop TNA
>> > * Format and Printing
>> >   - adopt markdown and submit possible new section to learnOSM.
>> >   - find a way to print as pdf
>> >
>> > Our Office is in Manila Observatory:
>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=25850724
>> > Full address:
>> > Environmental Science for Social Change
>> > 1/F Manila Observatory Building, Ateneo de Manila University,
>> > Loyola Heights, Quezon City 1108, Philippines
>> > my cellphone number is +639062950500
>> >
>> > Please send me a message if you want to join.
>> >
>> > The actual trainors training workshop will be on June 10-13.
>> > Details on logistics soon.  If you need a formal invitation, let me
>> > know.
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 6:51 PM, maning sambale
>> > <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Dear everyone,
>> >>
>> >> Below are the planned activities for Trainors Training Workshops:
>> >>
>> >> 1. Module development sprint. This will be an in-person sprint with
>> >> HOT and OSM Indonesia.
>> >> Venue: ESSC QC Office May 30 - June 1, 2014
>> >>
>> >> 2. Conduct of Trainors Training Workshop. Venue: to be determined. Jun
>> >> 9-13, 2014
>> >>
>> >> Everyone is invited to participate.  We hope that by the end of this
>> >> activities, we have a full set of training modules you can use to run
>> >> OSM workshops.
>> >>
>> >> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> From: maning sambale <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:40 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops
>> >> To: osm-ph <talk-ph at openstreetmap.org>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear everyone,
>> >>
>> >> As a follow-up on this discussion.  ESSC in partnership with the
>> >> Humanitarian OSM Team, OSM Indonesia and WB will kickstart this idea.
>> >>
>> >> The general plan is:
>> >> 1. Develop a trainors training manual by consolidating existing
>> >> materials and experiences from previous training activities in teh
>> >> Philippines and Indonesia.
>> >> 2. Run a TOT workshop for groups and individual interested to be a an
>> >> OSM trainor/facilitator.
>> >>
>> >> More details soon.  Of course, we invite the whole community to
>> >> participate both in the development of the materials and the test run
>> >> itself.
>> >> Resources are limited for the test run training so if there a groups
>> >> interested to pool in resources do let us know.
>> >>
>> >> Timeline: May-June 2014.
>> >>
>> >> More ideas welcome.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:01 PM, Robert Banick <rbanick at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> Hi Maning et al,
>> >>>
>> >>> The American Red Cross would love to partner with OSM-PH on any
>> >>> trainings we
>> >>> develop and conduct. We've done OSM trainings before elsewhere and
>> >>> have some
>> >>> materials and approaches that we can pull across to the Philippines.
>> >>> If
>> >>> anything the Philippines is easier because English fluency is much
>> >>> higher
>> >>> than many places we go.
>> >>>
>> >>> We're on the verge of submitting our formal plan to get this done and
>> >>> then
>> >>> we'll be working out the resourcing, so it could be some months.
>> >>>
>> >>> One thing we try to do within the Red Cross is connect OSM to projects
>> >>> or
>> >>> activities that National Societies do on a regular basis. This helps
>> >>> ensure
>> >>> that the training gets used. We need to talk with the Philippines Red
>> >>> Cross
>> >>> and identify some high-value use cases that we can plug OSM into. Dale
>> >>> might
>> >>> be able to contribute more thoughts on that.
>> >>>
>> >>> Cheers,
>> >>> Robert
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 6:41 AM, maning sambale
>> >>> <emmanuel.sambale at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Dear everyone,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Great discussion!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> First, coming from a 4-day road trip from Leyte and Samar for our
>> >>>> internal assessment ~3 months after Yolanda, remote training is not
>> >>>> really the best option.
>> >>>> In many areas, 3g connection is non-existent so, we need to find ways
>> >>>> on how to do on site training under these conditions especially for
>> >>>> LGUs interested to use OSM.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Let me try to summarize the action points.  From the thread I see the
>> >>>> following activites we need to do.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 1. Create a suite of materials for promotion and lightning talks
>> >>>> about
>> >>>> OSM.  This will be used as basic intro to OSM, whenever a group
>> >>>> invites us to speak.
>> >>>> I created a stub github repo for this [0].  Feel free to add slides,
>> >>>> brochures and whatever materials you think is useful.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2. Design a training/workshop package which OSM trainors can use.
>> >>>> Possible content/module can be:
>> >>>>  - Basic overview to OSM
>> >>>>  - Basic data collection and editing workflow
>> >>>>  - Specific modules on using OSM depending on use cases (i.e. LGU,
>> >>>> NGO, DRR, etc.)
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We (essc) have already developed an initial training design and
>> >>>> materials for our Pampanga project.  We can use this as an initial
>> >>>> draft of the modules.
>> >>>> We also have learnosm.org as another resource.  A major topic
>> >>>> mentioned here is how to collect data using smartphones, maybe this
>> >>>> will be one major content we need develop.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> HOT-Id have more experience in doing OSM trainings, perhaps we can do
>> >>>> knowledge sharing with them as we develop the design and content?
>> >>>> @Kate, how can we do this?  What resources is needed?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> American Red Cross is also planning to do OSM trainings. @Robert, any
>> >>>> possibilities on developing this together with OSM-PH?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 3. Run a trainors training/workshop to interested OSM trainors.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 4. Design a communication protocol to remotely support either the
>> >>>> local trainors or the participants after the conduct of training
>> >>>> (options mentioned are skype, mumble, teamviewer).  Or do follow-up
>> >>>> visits if possible?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sounds like a plan!  Please add anything I missed.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> [0] https://github.com/OSMPH/promo_materials
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Mark Cupitt <markcupitt at gmail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Kate, I think that once the relationship has been built, that
>> >>>> > followup
>> >>>> > using tools like TeamViewer is very practical. That app  has a some
>> >>>> > great
>> >>>> > features, including group sessions, and is free for non commercial
>> >>>> > use, nd I
>> >>>> > am sure there is other alternatives out there just as good.. We
>> >>>> > have used
>> >>>> > Teamviewer as a training and support aid over the past year, but
>> >>>> > generally
>> >>>> > after face to face sessions are done. being able to put a face to
>> >>>> > the person
>> >>>> > on the other end of a remote session is still important IMHO
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > This leads into the next obvious step where the trainer becomes the
>> >>>> > Mentor to a group of people. In the HOT environment, this person
>> >>>> > could
>> >>>> > become the verifier for work done by his group, etc as the
>> >>>> > connection
>> >>>> > between individuals has already been made and feedback on standards
>> >>>> > for
>> >>>> > tagging can be easily communicated
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Cheers
>> >>>> > Mark
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Regards
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Mark Cupitt
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > "If we change the world, let it bear the mark of our intelligence"
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > See me on LinkedIn
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > See me on StackExchange
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
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>> >>>> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kate Chapman <kate at maploser.com>
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Hi All,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> We have faced similar challenged in Indonesia. Typically with our
>> >>>> >> trainings someone runs the powerpoint and talks at the front but
>> >>>> >> then
>> >>>> >> we have other trainers around the trainees looking for problems
>> >>>> >> and
>> >>>> >> providing help. There are also times we break into small groups.
>> >>>> >> The
>> >>>> >> small groups can sometimes be limited by the lack of a way to show
>> >>>> >> everyone the instructors screen though. Typically we try to use
>> >>>> >> two
>> >>>> >> projectors (I know a luxury) one shows the slides on the topic and
>> >>>> >> the
>> >>>> >> other walks people through what to actual click.
>> >>>> >> On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Jim Morgan <jim at datalude.com>
>> >>>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> >> > On 01/31/2014 09:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >>
>> >>>> >> >> Also, I've noticed that Filipinos generally prefer face-to-face
>> >>>> >> >> interaction. I've seen countless times where you ask the
>> >>>> >> >> audience if
>> >>>> >> >> they
>> >>>> >> >> have any questions and nobody would raise their hands. But
>> >>>> >> >> after the
>> >>>> >> >> lecture
>> >>>> >> >> is over, a few people would approach the lecturer and then ask
>> >>>> >> >> questions.
>> >>>> >> >> This kind of interaction would be hard to do online.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Point taken about the reticence of audiences here. I've held a
>> >>>> >> > few
>> >>>> >> > meetings
>> >>>> >> > here myself where its really hard to get input ... which has
>> >>>> >> > been the
>> >>>> >> > whole
>> >>>> >> > purpose of the meeting! But I think the group chat might
>> >>>> >> > actually
>> >>>> >> > encourage
>> >>>> >> > this. People actually seem to get braver when they're not
>> >>>> >> > putting
>> >>>> >> > their hand
>> >>>> >> > up in a roomful of people. Basically as the presenter is
>> >>>> >> > demonstrating
>> >>>> >> > something, questions appear in the group chat, and the presenter
>> >>>> >> > can
>> >>>> >> > address
>> >>>> >> > them when its convenient. It actually seems to work quite well.
>> >>>> >> > There
>> >>>> >> > are
>> >>>> >> > also options to send private messages by email which can be
>> >>>> >> > addressed
>> >>>> >> > in the
>> >>>> >> > Q&A session.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> How do you think doing remote training where an in person
>> >>>> >> connection
>> >>>> >> has already been made? For example if participants had taken part
>> >>>> >> in a
>> >>>> >> one or two day beginner class, but then could remotely receive
>> >>>> >> follow-up training? Perhaps having the initial face to face would
>> >>>> >> help.
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> Best,
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> -Kate
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >>
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Anyway, just something to consider, and I'm just bouncing the
>> >>>> >> > idea
>> >>>> >> > around.
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> > Jim
>> >>>> >> >
>> >>>> >> >
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