[talk-ph] Reviving investigation on Dec 2019 mapping activity around Batangas

Timeo Gut timeo.gut at hotmail.com
Mon Jul 5 08:54:27 UTC 2021


I just had a look at the editing pattern of the users involved in this. 
Many of the edits were just adding roads or landuse. And the POIs that 
were added are quite spread out. It seems to me that the mappers were 
just adding a bunch of POIs that were of personal interest to them.

It's very different from the pattern of Para mappers which always added 
a very high density of POIs along selected roads and never added any 
roads or landuse.

The main issues that I noticed are descriptive names, missing tags and 
bad geometries. As I suggested on the papercut ticket, maybe each of us 
can just pick a few users, review their edits and then tick them off on 
the list.

On 2021-07-05 02:12, Jherome Miguel wrote:
> Please reply.
>
> FYI, I provided a short timeline of events regarding this suspicious 
> organized mapping activity:
>
> 1.) December 15, 2019: Unusual increase in map activity reported 
> around the municipalities of Taal, Lemery, San Nicolas, Santa Teresita 
> and San Luis. OSMPH ticket created. Contact with three editors attempted.
> 3.) December 20, 2019: Last edit reported.
> 4.) January 24, 2020: POIs copied from GMaps discovered through 
> Geofabrik Map Compare. New ticket created for reverts of all POIs 
> believed to be illegally copied.
>
> Now we’re also dealing with issues about mapping by Para Apps, I’m 
> also looking if some of the users could be really Para map editors 
> (not sure if any of the municipalities where the suspicious mapping 
> activity do have launched tricycle services using the Para app). Some 
> of the names of the users involved do raise red flags, but so far, 
> that’s just my gut feeling; there’s little evidence they could be.
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 10:47 PM Jherome Miguel 
> <jheromemiguel at gmail.com <mailto:jheromemiguel at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     As of now, we have been tackling issues with edits from PARA
>     Systems Inc, which has some of its users involved in Illegal
>     copying from Google Maps, but I would also like to revive the
>     investigation regarding a huge organized mapping activity covering
>     several municipalities in Batangas last December 2019 (see
>     https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/56
>     <https://github.com/OSMPH/papercut_fix/issues/56>). There has been
>     illegal copying of GMaps data in that case (and much of the edits
>     from that activity reverted), editors have failed to communicate
>     regarding concerns about data quality and sourcing, and the nature
>     of the mapping activity remains unknown. I have long guessed this
>     one could be a LGU mapping activity, and reviving investigations
>     should bring more details to light.
>
>
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