[talk-ph] "VJMEJ Planned" and "Open Paint Maps"

[Andy Townsend]

On 16/04/2022 13:02, Jherome Miguel wrote:
> I just reported their two diary entries.
>
> Back on the issue, do you mean we can't discount VJMEJ Planned and 
> Open Paint Maps are the same person?
>
As ever, I'd suggest trying to engage with the mapper.

In this case 
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=15549478 has 
only one comment on it, and it merely says "you're wrong" - not even 
"hello".  This was on this mapper's first ever contribution to OSM - 
certainly before anyone can reasonably think that they were the same 
person as some other mapper.

However, Subsequent changeset comments by them (see 
http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=15549478&commented 
) and diary entries (see 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/VJMEJ%20Planned/diary ) suggest that 
they have a problem with you*1.

I appreciate that there has been a problem with "new accounts" in the 
Philippines that are performing the same sort of edits that don't match 
reality that are suspected of being related, but from the perspective of 
the DWG we need more to go on than one person saying "I think the DWG 
should ban this user".

Please, please, try and give new mappers the time and space to start 
mapping.  Don't immediately assume that they will "spoil the map".

Please also do not think that sending repeated emails and reports to the 
DWG that add no new information (or cc:ing me directly) will get your 
issue dealt with quicker.  If anything, it'll have the reverse effect.  
Instead, please say "hello and welcome", and offer to help them doing 
whatever it is that they are doing.  If they are mapping things 
incorrectly, explain why it is wrong (don't just say that it is) and 
invite them to discuss how to map with the rest of the PH community.

Right now the thread 
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2022-April/thread.html#6947 
only has mails from you in it*2, so it appears not to be an especially 
important issue within the wider PH community.  Once these is more 
discussion (especially, changeset comments from other mappers) I'm sure 
that someone from the DWG will pick it up.

Best Regards,

Andy Townsend, from the Data Working Group


*1 visible at the time of writing.  Some of their diary entries have 
already been hidden.

*2 to be fair we have had one other issue report about this user.