[Talk-pt] Road numbering in Portugal

[f.dos.santos at free.fr]

If everybody agree I think the correct tagging is :
ref=A1 (for motorway)
ref=IP5 (for "itinerario principal")
ref=IC31 (for "itinerario complementario")
ref=EN329 (for "estradas nacionais")
etc...

The example :
ref=N2 *incorrect* (need to start with EN)
ref=EN 329 *incorrect* (no space needed)

I will correct the Portuguese wiki, the first paragraph describing the ref tag
need clarification (describing the format).


> So just to make sure Google and me understood your portugese correctly:
>
> The *correct* tagging for Estradas Nacionais would be:
>
> ref=EN 329
>
> The *incorrect* tagging would be:
>
> ref=EN329 (without space)
> ref=N 329
> ref=N329
> ref=329
>
> Additionally I would remove "Estradas Nacionais" or "EN329" from the
> name-tag. Right?
>
> So to take an example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/25410709
>
> Currently it's tagged like this:
>
> name: Estrada Nacional 108
> ref: N108
>
> and I would change it to just:
>
> ref: EN 108
>
> Thanks again for your replies. Bom mapping :P
>
> Claudius
>
> Am 17.01.2011 23:02, Victor Ferreira:
> > Viva no Wiki diz explicitamente:
> > /highway=primary/. Estradas Nacionais (EN, lista aqui
> > <http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens>).
> > E na lista das estradas de Portugal (oficial) tem EN
> > http://www.estradasdeportugal.pt/index.php/prn/152-complementar-ens
> > Nos mapas convencionais (em papel) sempre apareceu assim.
> > Victor
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Francisco DOS SANTOS
> > <f.dos.santos at free.fr <mailto:f.dos.santos at free.fr>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     > Ok, thanks for the heads up.
> >     > The road numbers listed in the wiki page is correct:
> >     > it's IP, IC, EN, ER, etc, as indicated in the page.
> >     > Victor
> >     >
> >     Só venho de reparar o caso das nacionais !
> >     Devemos codificar ref=EN2 e não ref=N2 ?
> >
> >     Se fora o caso, vou completar o wiki porque a pagina :
> >     http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Estradas
> >     Não diz nada sobre o ref.
> >     E a pagina :
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rede_das_principais_estradas_de_Portugal
> >     Uso o N e não EN.
> >
> >     E um ponto que precisa ser esclarecido, cada pais tem o seu
> >     sistema (em
> >     frança por exemplo usemos o N e não RN, e temos um espaço entre a
> >     letra
> >     e o numero : N 2).
> >
> >     > On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:14 AM, Claudius Henrichs
> >     > <claudius.h at gmx.de <mailto:claudius.h at gmx.de>> wrote:
> >     >         Bom dia!
> >     >
> >     >         sorry for posting in English, but I feel this to be a
> >     relevant
> >     >         information and question.
> >     >         Some of you actively mapping in Portugal may have seen
> >     altely
> >     >         some increased activity from some german mappers. This is
> >     >         because a user who is active in quality assurance has run a
> >     >         "connection check" over the portugese OSM data. This check
> >     >         searches for roads that are crossing without bridge or
> >     tunnel.
> >     >         There is a list with those errors on the wiki [1] and every
> >     >         user can take a block of 100 errors, leave a note in the
> >     wiki
> >     >         that he is dealing with them and try to fix these.
> >     Fixing the
> >     >         errors is much easier now with the help of Bing imagery.
> >     >
> >     >         I feel that it would have definitely been nicer to have
> >     >         informed the portugese OSM community *before* starting this
> >     >         campaign, but better late than never.
> >     >
> >     >         Now to my personal question on mapping in Portugal: I have
> >     >         read a bit about the road network and number in Portugal on
> >     >         the english wikipedia [2]. I see that you have some new road
> >     >         numbers starting with "IP" and "IC" that were assigned
> >     in the
> >     >         2000 Plano Rodoviário Nacional. And then you have the older
> >     >         estradas nacionais given out in the 1945 Plano Rodoviário
> >     >         Nacional. I already checked the OSM wiki project page for
> >     >         Portugal [3] but could not find any recommendation about how
> >     >         to tag these. Shall I use "EN329" or "N329"? Same goes
> >     for the
> >     >         estradas regionais: Should we use "ER32" or "R32"? Thanks in
> >     >         advance for your help.
> >     >
> >     >         Regards,
> >     >         Claudius
> >
>
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