[Talk-ro] Import CLC

Stefan UNGUREANU stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
Tue Dec 7 06:44:03 GMT 2010


Din pacate datele importate nu sunt intotdeauna corecte. De ex, undeva 
langa Campina, am gasit o mare zona rezidentiala care apare in CLC ca 
lac. Nu am avut inca timp sa vad daca problema e la conversiile de la 
CLC la OSM, dar e oricum bizar.

Daca mai observati zone cu elemente bizare, sa-mi trimiteti un link ca 
sa vad ce nu a mers bine la import.

Sper ca astazi sa termin si apele si sa incep pagina de wiki pentru 
discutii.

Stefan.

On 07/12/2010 08:26, Ioan Indreias wrote:
> Excelent - sper ca toti care se gandesc la stergeri sa procedeze la
> fel. Ideea este sa pastram informatiile utile de la ce se considera a
> nu mai fi un poligon de actualitate.
>
> In alta ordine de idei multumim lui Stefan pentru efortul depus.
>
> Toate bune,
> Nini.
>
> 2010/12/6 Constantin Popescu<popescu.constantin at gmail.com>:
>> Acum sper sa fie ok. Am adaugat tag-urile de la poligonul vechi.
>>
>> 2010/12/6 Constantin Popescu<popescu.constantin at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> Salut Cristi. Inca nu am pus tag-urile noi dar am sa le adaug.
>>>
>>> 2010/12/6 Cristian Draghici<cristian.draghici at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Discutia a fost ca CLC nu defineste limite administrative si ca
>>>> poligonele cultura.ro raman si sunt redenumite (cu pre-CLC).
>>>> Acum Deva nu mai are limita administrativa.
>>>> Ati sters poligonul vechi dar proprietatile "boundary" = "administrative"
>>>> , "siruta:code" = 86696, "place=city" nu le-ati transferat pe poligonul nou.
>>>> Poligonul nou nu are nici un atribut care sa-l lege de orasul Deva - e
>>>> doar o zona colorata gri.
>>>> "siruta:code" facea legatura intre un poligon administrativ si orasul sau
>>>> (pentru ca siruta:code apare si pe punctul care reprezinta centrul orasului
>>>> - place=town).
>>>>
>>>> Cu multumiri,
>>>> --
>>>> Cristi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2010/12/6 Constantin Popescu<popescu.constantin at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, asa mi se pare si mie cel mai corect. Mersi
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Atunci cred ca ar trebui puse tag-urile de boundary pe celalalt
>>>>>> poligon, si sters cel necorespunzator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Din cate vad eu, vechiul poligon de landuse nu are puncte comune cu
>>>>>> altele, deci ar merge pur si simplu sters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stefan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/12/2010 16:45, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am observat si eu asta. Am vazut ca ai si corectat. Insa intrebarea
>>>>>>> mea
>>>>>>> ramane: care e utilitatea acestui poligon atata vreme cat limitele lui
>>>>>>> nu sunt corecte si mai mult, exista deja o delimitare mult mai corecta
>>>>>>> prin aceste poligoane care au fost importate de catre tine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Din cate am vazut, vechiul poligon de landuse
>>>>>>>     (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/53197617) nu mai avea
>>>>>>>     tag-urile de boundary, pe care le-am pus eu acum.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Stefan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     On 06/12/2010 16:32, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         Intrebarea mea e atunci, e vreo problema daca o sterg ? In
>>>>>>> cazul
>>>>>>>         orasului Deva, limitele acestui poligon oricum nu sunt corecte.
>>>>>>>         Stiu ca
>>>>>>>         inainte de acest import masiv orice sursa de date era buna, fie
>>>>>>>         ea si
>>>>>>>         invizibila. Dar acum cu atatea poligoane, mai sunt acestea
>>>>>>>         necesare ? Nu
>>>>>>>         stiu in alte orase, dar stiu ca in cazul meu, stergerea
>>>>>>> acestuia
>>>>>>>         m-ar
>>>>>>>         ajuta enorm.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Da, stiu. Inainte de import, eu am incercat sa le modific
>>>>>>> pe
>>>>>>>         toate
>>>>>>>             in asa fel incat sa respecte pattern-ul descris in mailul
>>>>>>>         naterior
>>>>>>>             dar, fie mi-au scapat, fie au fost re-modificate dupa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Stefan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             On 06/12/2010 16:24, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Si totusi in unele cazuri au :) Am atasat o poza cu
>>>>>>> unul din
>>>>>>>                 cazuri. Nu
>>>>>>>                 as vrea sa sterg ceva ceva ce e folositor, dar deja
>>>>>>> sunt
>>>>>>>         foarte
>>>>>>>                 multe
>>>>>>>                 pologoane.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 In cazul JOSM, ai dreptate, se pare ca JOSM nu sterge
>>>>>>>         latura comuna.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
>>>>>>>         <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Salut,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Din discutiile mai vechi, o idee era ca poligoanele
>>>>>>>                 importate de la
>>>>>>>         "cultura.ro<http://cultura.ro>  <http://cultura.ro>
>>>>>>>         <http://cultura.ro>" (sursa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                 Mircea Angelescu), sa nu
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     aiba landuse=residential, ci doar
>>>>>>>         boundary=administrative, si
>>>>>>>                     celelalte tag-uri conexe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Nici eu nu m-am prins cum sa sterg un way fara sa
>>>>>>>         sterg si
>>>>>>>                 punctele
>>>>>>>                     componente. Am remarcat insa ca JOSM nu va sterge
>>>>>>>         punctele
>>>>>>>                 care sunt
>>>>>>>                     folosite si in alte poligoane, dar nu sunt 100%
>>>>>>> sigur ca
>>>>>>>                 asta e regula.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     Stefan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                     On 06/12/2010 14:50, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Salut,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Vin si eu cu cateva intrebari si nelamuriri. In
>>>>>>>         urma acestui
>>>>>>>                         import in
>>>>>>>                         orasul meu exista acum doua poligoane cu
>>>>>>>                 landuse=residential.
>>>>>>>                         Primul din
>>>>>>>                         ele, cu sursa "Mircea Anglescu" cred ca e
>>>>>>> inutil
>>>>>>>         in acest
>>>>>>>                         moment. Cum
>>>>>>>                         pot sterge acel poligon fara sa sterg si un alt
>>>>>>>         eventual
>>>>>>>                 poligon
>>>>>>>                         care
>>>>>>>                         are o latura comuna cu acesta ? Folosesc JOSM
>>>>>>> si nu
>>>>>>>                 mi-am dat
>>>>>>>                         seama cum
>>>>>>>                         pot face asta. Vreau sa il sterg pentru ca
>>>>>>>         poligonul de
>>>>>>>                 CORINE e
>>>>>>>                         mult
>>>>>>>                         mai precis, si acolo unde nu e corect, poate fi
>>>>>>>         corectat mai
>>>>>>>                         usor decat
>>>>>>>                         cel vechi.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                         Multumesc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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