[Talk-ro] Import CLC
Stefan UNGUREANU
stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro
Fri Dec 10 08:34:59 GMT 2010
Multumesc pentru aprecieri. Ramane de corectat acolo unde datele sunt
incorecte, iar asta e treaba cea mai complicata.
Din pacate nu am avut prea mult timp sa dedic paginii cu lista de
imbunatatiri, dar posibil sa reusesc peste weekend.
Stefan.
On 10/12/2010 09:09, Cristian Draghici wrote:
> Pe thread-ul de felicitari, multumim Stefan.
>
> Arata grozav!
>
> --
> Cristi
>
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> 2010/12/7 Rares Rusu <rares.rusu at gmx.de <mailto:rares.rusu at gmx.de>>
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> Ștefan, felicitări pentru import.
>
> Am observat și eu niște zone cu probleme (o zonă comercială marcată
> ca fiind carieră - probabil imaginile au fost luate în timp ce era
> în șantier), dar per total rezultatul este impresionant.
>
>
> Numai bine,
>
> Rareș
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>
>> ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----
>>
>> Von: Stefan UNGUREANU
>>
>> Gesendet: 07.12.10 08:44 Uhr
>>
>> An: OSM Romania
>>
>> Betreff: Re: [Talk-ro] Import CLC
>>
>>
>> Din pacate datele importate nu sunt intotdeauna corecte. De ex, undeva
>> langa Campina, am gasit o mare zona rezidentiala care apare in CLC ca
>> lac. Nu am avut inca timp sa vad daca problema e la conversiile de la
>> CLC la OSM, dar e oricum bizar.
>>
>> Daca mai observati zone cu elemente bizare, sa-mi trimiteti un link ca
>> sa vad ce nu a mers bine la import.
>>
>> Sper ca astazi sa termin si apele si sa incep pagina de wiki pentru
>> discutii.
>>
>> Stefan.
>>
>> On 07/12/2010 08:26, Ioan Indreias wrote:
>> > Excelent - sper ca toti care se gandesc la stergeri sa procedeze la
>> > fel. Ideea este sa pastram informatiile utile de la ce se considera a
>> > nu mai fi un poligon de actualitate.
>> >
>> > In alta ordine de idei multumim lui Stefan pentru efortul depus.
>> >
>> > Toate bune,
>> > Nini.
>> >
>> > 2010/12/6 Constantin Popescu<popescu.constantin at gmail.com <mailto:popescu.constantin at gmail.com>>:
>> >> Acum sper sa fie ok. Am adaugat tag-urile de la poligonul vechi.
>> >>
>> >> 2010/12/6 Constantin Popescu<popescu.constantin at gmail.com <mailto:popescu.constantin at gmail.com>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Salut Cristi. Inca nu am pus tag-urile noi dar am sa le adaug.
>> >>>
>> >>> 2010/12/6 Cristian Draghici<cristian.draghici at gmail.com <mailto:cristian.draghici at gmail.com>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Discutia a fost ca CLC nu defineste limite administrative si ca
>> >>>> poligonelecultura.ro <http://cultura.ro> raman si sunt redenumite (cu pre-CLC).
>> >>>> Acum Deva nu mai are limita administrativa.
>> >>>> Ati sters poligonul vechi dar proprietatile"boundary" ="administrative"
>> >>>> ,"siruta:code" = 86696,"place=city" nu le-ati transferat pe poligonul nou.
>> >>>> Poligonul nou nu are nici un atribut care sa-l lege de orasul Deva - e
>> >>>> doar o zona colorata gri.
>> >>>> "siruta:code" facea legatura intre un poligon administrativ si orasul sau
>> >>>> (pentru ca siruta:code apare si pe punctul care reprezinta centrul orasului
>> >>>> - place=town).
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Cu multumiri,
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Cristi
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> 2010/12/6 Constantin Popescu<popescu.constantin at gmail.com <mailto:popescu.constantin at gmail.com>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Ok, asa mi se pare si mie cel mai corect. Mersi
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Atunci cred ca ar trebui puse tag-urile de boundary pe celalalt
>> >>>>>> poligon, si sters cel necorespunzator.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Din cate vad eu, vechiul poligon de landuse nu are puncte comune cu
>> >>>>>> altele, deci ar merge pur si simplu sters.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Stefan.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 06/12/2010 16:45, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Am observat si eu asta. Am vazut ca ai si corectat. Insa intrebarea
>> >>>>>>> mea
>> >>>>>>> ramane: care e utilitatea acestui poligon atata vreme cat limitele lui
>> >>>>>>> nu sunt corecte si mai mult, exista deja o delimitare mult mai corecta
>> >>>>>>> prin aceste poligoane care au fost importate de catre tine.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Din cate am vazut, vechiul poligon de landuse
>> >>>>>>> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/53197617) nu mai avea
>> >>>>>>> tag-urile de boundary, pe care le-am pus eu acum.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Stefan.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 06/12/2010 16:32, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Intrebarea mea e atunci, e vreo problema daca o sterg ? In
>> >>>>>>> cazul
>> >>>>>>> orasului Deva, limitele acestui poligon oricum nu sunt corecte.
>> >>>>>>> Stiu ca
>> >>>>>>> inainte de acest import masiv orice sursa de date era buna, fie
>> >>>>>>> ea si
>> >>>>>>> invizibila. Dar acum cu atatea poligoane, mai sunt acestea
>> >>>>>>> necesare ? Nu
>> >>>>>>> stiu in alte orase, dar stiu ca in cazul meu, stergerea
>> >>>>>>> acestuia
>> >>>>>>> m-ar
>> >>>>>>> ajuta enorm.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Da, stiu. Inainte de import, eu am incercat sa le modific
>> >>>>>>> pe
>> >>>>>>> toate
>> >>>>>>> in asa fel incat sa respecte pattern-ul descris in mailul
>> >>>>>>> naterior
>> >>>>>>> dar, fie mi-au scapat, fie au fost re-modificate dupa.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Stefan.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 06/12/2010 16:24, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Si totusi in unele cazuri au :) Am atasat o poza cu
>> >>>>>>> unul din
>> >>>>>>> cazuri. Nu
>> >>>>>>> as vrea sa sterg ceva ceva ce e folositor, dar deja
>> >>>>>>> sunt
>> >>>>>>> foarte
>> >>>>>>> multe
>> >>>>>>> pologoane.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> In cazul JOSM, ai dreptate, se pare ca JOSM nu sterge
>> >>>>>>> latura comuna.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 2010/12/6 Stefan UNGUREANU<stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro <mailto:stefan.ungureanu at mytrek.ro>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Salut,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Din discutiile mai vechi, o idee era ca poligoanele
>> >>>>>>> importate de la
>> >>>>>>> "cultura.ro <http://cultura.ro><http://cultura.ro> <http://cultura.ro>
>> >>>>>>> <http://cultura.ro>" (sursa
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Mircea Angelescu), sa nu
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> aiba landuse=residential, ci doar
>> >>>>>>> boundary=administrative, si
>> >>>>>>> celelalte tag-uri conexe.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Nici eu nu m-am prins cum sa sterg un way fara sa
>> >>>>>>> sterg si
>> >>>>>>> punctele
>> >>>>>>> componente. Am remarcat insa ca JOSM nu va sterge
>> >>>>>>> punctele
>> >>>>>>> care sunt
>> >>>>>>> folosite si in alte poligoane, dar nu sunt 100%
>> >>>>>>> sigur ca
>> >>>>>>> asta e regula.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Stefan.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 06/12/2010 14:50, Constantin Popescu wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Salut,
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Vin si eu cu cateva intrebari si nelamuriri. In
>> >>>>>>> urma acestui
>> >>>>>>> import in
>> >>>>>>> orasul meu exista acum doua poligoane cu
>> >>>>>>> landuse=residential.
>> >>>>>>> Primul din
>> >>>>>>> ele, cu sursa"Mircea Anglescu" cred ca e
>> >>>>>>> inutil
>> >>>>>>> in acest
>> >>>>>>> moment. Cum
>> >>>>>>> pot sterge acel poligon fara sa sterg si un alt
>> >>>>>>> eventual
>> >>>>>>> poligon
>> >>>>>>> care
>> >>>>>>> are o latura comuna cu acesta ? Folosesc JOSM
>> >>>>>>> si nu
>> >>>>>>> mi-am dat
>> >>>>>>> seama cum
>> >>>>>>> pot face asta. Vreau sa il sterg pentru ca
>> >>>>>>> poligonul de
>> >>>>>>> CORINE e
>> >>>>>>> mult
>> >>>>>>> mai precis, si acolo unde nu e corect, poate fi
>> >>>>>>> corectat mai
>> >>>>>>> usor decat
>> >>>>>>> cel vechi.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Multumesc.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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