[Talk-ro] sorein

Razvan Radulescu radulescu.razvan at gmail.com
Tue Jul 15 09:40:48 UTC 2014


Din aceasta cauza softuri cum sunt osmand nu pot integra anumite taguri 
si nu o pot scoate la capat cu rutarea pentru ca pe harta se lucreaza ca 
la "ceape" ( mai ales in partea de est a europei unde lipseste multora 
educatia de lucru in comunitate). Si de aceea exista gap-ul imens intre 
ce s-a rezlizat pe osm in vestul eurpei si ce este aici. Cei din vestul 
europei au trecut de mult de faza cu " eu am dreptate si tu esti prost"...

On 15.07.2014 12:35, Razvan Radulescu wrote:
> Chestia cu
> "As always on OSM you are free to use the keys you like in
> the way you like!"
>
> denota lipsa de profesionalism si ceva similar cu  "hai sa facem treaba ca pe maidan...""
>
> Si o iesi o improvizatie pana la urma...
>
> On 15.07.2014 12:31, Filip Chirita Rares Cristian wrote:
>> Easy with the accusations, guys. It's good to see that a toxic 
>> element was taken out of the picture, they won't poison the group 
>> anymore. The editor group may be small but we're dedicated :) I'm 
>> quite new (~1 year), but I like what I see. Let's keep the sense of 
>> community strong and help each other out, as well as spread the word 
>> about OSM.
>>
>> Rares
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Gabriel Sebastian Moise 
>> <GabrielSebastianMoise at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:GabrielSebastianMoise at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     How can we know if sorein will make another account using another
>>     email, and connecting to the OSM editor using a proxy.
>>
>>     @Strainu, you misunderstood me.... When you'll know me better you
>>     will see that I was right in what I said to Facebook OSM Group.
>>     I respect others work, but you didn't understand well what I said.
>>     I just want the tags to be used correctly. That's why I gave the
>>     link to wikipedia....
>>
>>     When OSMand will implement well in the routing script, the using
>>     of smoothness tags, and a major road will have very_bad tag set
>>     on it... The priority of the road will not be as high as you
>>     think. The script will try to avoid that segment of road, and
>>     you'll have to make more km to reach your destination. Then we'll
>>     have to revise again all the tags from the major roads..  EU
>>     Roads, DN Roads, DJ Roads,..
>>
>>     We are now a very small group of people that we remain active on
>>     editor... All my work that I've done was entered manualy. I
>>     didn't import, or used bots like others. I'm not programmer like
>>     you.... So again I respect other work, but I only want that the
>>     tags for the roads to be used accordingly like in wikipedia pages.
>>
>>     So that road with the very_bad tag, has much better asphalt
>>     quality, is between intermediate to good...
>>
>>     PS. Don't even dare to compare me with sorein..... There was a
>>     lot of reports from me about sorein ....
>>
>>     Best regards ! Have a nice day to all of you !
>>
>>
>>     2014-07-15 9:41 GMT+03:00 Strainu [via GIS] <[hidden email]
>>     <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5811379&i=0>>:
>>
>>         Serge,
>>
>>         Thanks for letting us know about this decision. I appreciate
>>         your
>>         resolve in keeping such a long correspondence with Sorein. We
>>         will see
>>         in the coming months whether this will affect the project
>>         otherwise
>>         than by reducing the number of edit wars in Romania, but I am
>>         optimistic that no harm will come from this ban. I was
>>         wondering how
>>         is the DWG handling the matter of clones created by a banned
>>         user? My
>>         experience on Wikipedia shows that most of them tend to come
>>         back
>>         under another account.
>>
>>         Now, if only Sorein's opponents will also tone their language
>>         down a
>>         bit when referring to users making changes they are not happy
>>         about,
>>         that would be great.
>>
>>         Strainu
>>
>>         În data de 15 iulie 2014, 03:28, Serge Wroclawski <[hidden
>>         email]
>>         <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5811371&i=0>> a scris:
>>
>>         > Draga( comunitatea româneasca(,
>>         >
>>         > Eu cer scuze în avans, în cazul în care acest e-mail suna(
>>         ciudat. Eu
>>         > nu vorbesc limba româna( s,i eu sunt, folosind un program
>>         de traducere
>>         > pentru a traduce acest e-mail (originalul este în partea de
>>         jos a
>>         > acestui e-mail).
>>         >
>>         > Dupa( o deliberare de mult, grupul de lucru de date a decis
>>         sa( plaseze
>>         > un bloc nedefinita( pe utilizator "sorein":
>>         >
>>         > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/493
>>         >
>>         > Explicat,ia completa( pentru aceasta( interdict,ie este
>>         situat pe mesajul
>>         > ban, as,a ca( nu voi repeta ceea ce am scris acolo.
>>         >
>>         > Acest lucru nu este ceva care DWG ia us,or, dar am simt,it
>>         ca( era
>>         > necesar în acest caz. Daca( cineva are întreba(ri cu
>>         privire la acest
>>         > lucru, pot,i sa( ma( întrebi în acest thread, sau cere
>>         > [hidden email]
>>         <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5811371&i=1>
>>         >
>>         > Va multumesc,
>>         >
>>         > Serge
>>         > în numele DWG
>>         >
>>         > Mesaj originala(
>>         >
>>         > Dear Romanian Community,
>>         >
>>         > I appologize in advance if this mail sounds strange. I do
>>         not speak
>>         > Romanian and I am using a translation program to translate
>>         this email
>>         > (the original is at the bottom of this mail).
>>         >
>>         > After a long deliberation, the Data Working Group has
>>         decided to place
>>         > an indefinite block on user "sorein":
>>         >
>>         > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/493
>>         >
>>         > The full explanation for this ban is located on the ban
>>         message, so I
>>         > will not repeat what we have written there.
>>         >
>>         > This is not something that the DWG takes lightly, but we
>>         felt it was
>>         > necessary in this case. If anyone has any questions about
>>         this, you
>>         > can ask me in this thread, or ask [hidden email]
>>         <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5811371&i=2>
>>         >
>>         > Thank you,
>>         >
>>         > Serge
>>         > on behalf of the DWG
>>         >
>>         > Original Message
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