[Talk-scotland] [Talk-GB] Fwd: Shetland-Orkney ferry and NCN 1

Donald Noble drnoble at gmail.com
Wed Mar 26 21:15:57 UTC 2014


I have been on the Aberdeen Kirkwall Lerwick ferry (a couple of years
ago), and have added a rough route for it to the map.

Pretty sure the Kirkwall-Sumburgh ferry is incorrect (although NCN1
does go to Sumburgh IIRC), but have not deleted the ferry route from
the map. Anyone else have any more recent knowledge of this ferry?

I would agree with Richard's original point, that possibly best not to
have an incorrect ferry on the map, especially when there is no
information about it online. Also OS Opendata SteetView shows the
Shetland Sumburgh/Grutness ferry terminal to be foot only, but the OSM
ferry route added by MasiMaster has motorcar=yes. Has anyone tried
contacting MasiMaster about this?

Regards, Donald

On 26 March 2014 18:18, Shaun McDonald <shaun at shaunmcdonald.me.uk> wrote:
> Here's some info from someone who used to live on Shetland and has visited
> recently, and is an OSM mapper who isn't on the list.
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: John Robert Peterson <jrp.crs at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-scotland] Shetland-Orkney ferry and NCN 1
> Date: 26 March 2014 18:00:17 GMT
> To: Shaun McDonald <shaun at shaunmcdonald.me.uk>
>
> I'm pretty sure there are issues with ferries around orkney too, last time I
> checked, there are 2 ferries that link Orkney to the mainland, and one goes
> to aberdeen.
>
> I sugest someone with proper cycling experience does a proper audit of edits
> done by the user in question in the area on the offchance that there is a
> pattern.
>
> JR
>
>
> On 26 March 2014 17:55, John Robert Peterson <jrp.crs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> unless there have been some very significant, and budgetarilly unlikely,
>> changes, there is a ferry from sumburgh to fairisle, but it goes no further.
>>
>> There is however a proper big ferry that goes from Lerwick to Aberdeen
>> with a stop off every second night in Orkney.
>>
>> I've been in Orkney many times, but only ever in the middle of the night
>> while trying to sleep, a bunch of blokes trying down cargo with remarkably
>> noisy equipment. so I can't comment on the Orkney side.
>>
>>
>> On 26 March 2014 17:20, Shaun McDonald <shaun at shaunmcdonald.me.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dunno if you know the answer to this?
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> > From: Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemeD.net>
>>> > Subject: [Talk-scotland] Shetland-Orkney ferry and NCN 1
>>> > Date: 26 March 2014 17:19:25 GMT
>>> > To: talk-scotland at openstreetmap.org
>>> >
>>> > Hello Scotland,
>>> >
>>> > Someone has pointed out that OSM currently has NCN 1 going by ferry to
>>> > Grutness/Sumburgh:
>>> >
>>> > http://cycle.travel/map?lat=59.8714&lon=-1.2772&zoom=13
>>> > http://opencyclemap.org/?zoom=11&lat=59.8689&lon=-1.27559&layers=B000
>>> >
>>> > whereas the ferries actually go to Lerwick.
>>> >
>>> > P2 tells me that the way in question was created by a German mapper
>>> > last summer. I can't see any information anywhere about a Kirkwall-Grutness
>>> > ferry, but then I've never been north of John O'Groats!
>>> >
>>> > Could someone with local knowledge correct/amend as applicable? Better
>>> > to have this section of NCN 1 missing than send people on a non-existent
>>> > ferry, I think.
>>> >
>>> > cheers
>>> > Richard
>>> >
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>>>
>>
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