[Talk-si] Parenzana

[Tomaž Vajngerl]

Hi,

On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 5:17 PM, Mauro Costantini
<maurocostantini1985 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys, i'm a mapper (train&bike enthusiast too) from Friuli region in Italy.
> Last sunday i rode my bike on the cicleway EuroVelo8 - D8 - Parenzana
> from Italy to the croatian border.
> I saw some errors on the map (i will fix them later) but as it's not
> my region (and i don't speak Slovenian, sorry for that) i want to hear
> your opinion about some of them.

I'm not local to the region and not quite active in recent years but
I'll try to answer some questions.

Most things I see makes sense so if you can't find anybody with local
knowledge I would proceed with the edits.

> I tried to see the history of some ways and related changeset to write
> to the single mappers, but some ways has a really odd history (for
> instance w27423088) an no useful changeset comments, so i decided to
> bother you.
> 1. The main problem is that what is on the map is not on the ground
> (maybe someone mapped for the rendering only?), for instance
> w150510379 does not exists (bikes should use the nearby street);
> places with two cycleways (see w181337898 w430628717 w438505181); i'll
> fix them.
> 2. The actual name "Pot spominov in prijateljstva" seam to be not a
> name (and maybe not the name of the single osm ways). According to [1]
> i would put "Parenzana" as name, and the others as a description (sl,
> hr, it, en). Are you with me?
> 3. It's somehow a mess with relations: for instance tag capacity=* on
> r2791179; or should exist both r295450 r2791179 which are pretty much
> the same? or can r1775016 become a super-relation with only one member
> per country?
> 4. I've seen on the ground (literally painted on the sidewalks) a lot
> of bike signpost with some ref (usually on the form K-NN, with numbers
> instead of capital N), none of these are on OSM. What are them? Are
> them to be mapped?

I found on [1] that this label should be thematic ways - established
as a tourist initiative (I guess). On the site you can find the gpx
tracks for all of them and PDF with description in Italian, Engish and
German (if you are interested). We probably can't use the gpx files
but if you know which part of the way was labeled you can enter it in
OSM.

> 5. As an aside, i've seen a lot of motorbikes (probably moped or mofa)
> on the cycleways. Is this ok with your legislation? i was a bit scared

Mofas /mopeds that are registered as max speed 25 km/h are treated the
same as bicycles (you don't even need a helmet to ride them). I don't
like them either but they are legal in Slovenia

>
> Any advice would be great.
> Thanks.
> Mauro.

[1] http://www.koper.si/index.php?page=pespoti&item=2001237

Best regards, Tomaž Vajngerl