[Talk-sn] [Talk-ml] With leisure=common deprecated, Senegal & Mali need a replacement

Pierre Béland pierzenh at yahoo.fr
Mer 29 Avr 19:59:40 UTC 2020

Hi Jean-Marc
Like others, I did map many of these. I can tell you that we often see a common space in center of african villages, often near the school,  and  it is surely not green and have no facilities like in the Nordic countries parks.
People have to understand that there are often no infrastructures in African villages. But young people still gather and play.

I dont think that the OSM tagging schema should reflect the legal status in specific countries like UK. Various tags can reflect various realities.  And leisure=common seems to be quite well adapted to Africa and dont exist to stretch the legal defininition of UK. 

When the tag is used in UK, I would understand that the UK contributors want to follow a certain rule particular to their country.
But I dont agree to deprecate the the leisure=common tag for Africa.  


    Le mercredi 29 avril 2020 15 h 34 min 57 s UTC−4, Jean-Marc Liotier <jm at liotier.org> a écrit :  
 Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar: 
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA - larger than a 
street (it occupies a whole city block), used as a multipurpose common 
area (pickup soccer games are a staple but parking or lounging around 
also occur, and the occasional popular event) and usually surfaced with 
sand or whatever the ground is.

We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways in Senegal and 486 in 
Mali according to http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN) - which is a bit of 
stretch from the British legal definition, but worked well enough and 
did not conflict with its British usage. But leisure=common is now 

So, what should we use instead ? 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon suggests using 
leisure=park - which isn't too much of a stretch functionally but evokes 
greenery that does not occur here (though British commons are just as 
green and we were happy with leisure=common)... Any other ideas ? Or I'm 
going to use leisure=park+surface=sand !

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