[Talk-tr] HGK source

[H. Can Ünen]

Mr Ulgen is a member of United Nations Geographic Information Workgroup and
right know is enquiring UNGEGN (UN Group of Experts on Geographic Names)
about the status of the gazetteer. I think Paul contacted him at the
beginning of this think regarding the use of HGK maps. 

Meanwhile Paul is deleting all the Turkish place names in OSM saying that
HGK does not allow redistribution of its data. However the terms of HGK he
found is regarding the purchased maps from HGK, not the gazetteer which
Roman used to create the place names. I personally think that Roman had done
the right thing, making Turkish OSM data in compliance with the national
place names gazetteer. We should correct its source and use the place names
gazetteer instead of HGK, though. 

Paul is not listening to our arguments right now and deleting the data. If
it turns out that we can use the national gazetteer, I hope the process can
be reverted. If not, I say we make Paul redo all the data he deleted.

Can

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Can Ünen

-----Original Message-----
From: Hakan Tandogan [mailto:hakan at gurkensalat.com] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:30 AM
To: talk-tr at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source

On 28.04.2013 08:52, Paul Norman wrote:
>> From: Roman Neumüller [mailto:email at katpatuka.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:41 PM
>> To: talk-tr at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source
>>
>> Did you contact Mr Ulgen?
>> Because pnorman could not wait and eagerly started to redact on 18th 
>> of April...
>
> The conclusion of the discussion was that there might be alternative 
> sources for place names, but that the HGK data is definitely not
ODbL-compatible.

Just out of curiosity, who did discuss with whom? While I understand that
the turkish HGK can be a tiny little bit restrictive at times (especially
with military and social unrest rearing its head again), I had the
impression that Can wanted to contact Mr. Ülgen about  the UN dataset.

@Can: Did you get an answer, and if so, are you free to share the answer
with the mailing list (and possibly put it into wiki) so we can document
this case once and for all? You might want to ask Mr. Ülgen whether he wants
his email to be shared first, though...


Regards,
Hakan


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