[Talk-tr] HGK source
H. Can Ünen
can.unen at gmail.com
Mon Apr 29 12:38:45 UTC 2013
Paul,
We couldn't find the terms of the gazetteer on the website. The terms were
about the printed maps that you "buy" from HGK.
If you find the terms elsewhere, please share it with us. This is why we are
trying to get an answer from the UN about the use of the gazetteer. And the
gazetteer is for public use, as far as know, to achieve standardization on
place names.
HGK is not a valid source, we know. But there has been an error on the
source. Source of the data is not HGK maps, but the gazetteer that is
provided by HGK. So we should change the source field of the data to
national gazetteer instead of deleting them.
Please understand.
Can
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Can Ünen
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Norman [mailto:penorman at mac.com]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 12:00 PM
To: 'H. Can Ünen'
Cc: talk-tr at openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-tr] HGK source
> From: H. Can Ünen [mailto:can.unen at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:27 AM
> To: 'Hakan Tandogan'; talk-tr at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source
>
> Mr Ulgen is a member of United Nations Geographic Information
> Workgroup and right know is enquiring UNGEGN (UN Group of Experts on
> Geographic
> Names) about the status of the gazetteer. I think Paul contacted him
> at the beginning of this think regarding the use of HGK maps.
>
> Meanwhile Paul is deleting all the Turkish place names in OSM saying
> that HGK does not allow redistribution of its data. However the terms
> of HGK he found is regarding the purchased maps from HGK, not the
> gazetteer which Roman used to create the place names.
The terms on the gazetteer also do not grant the right to redistribute.
People have been looking for another data source. This is not what is
necessary. Even if we get permission for an alternative source of village
names, the HGK data still needs to be removed.
The only way to continue using the HGK data is to get permission from HGK.
Not the UNGEGN, not any organizations, only the HGK can grant permission to
redistribute their data.
There is a discussion about what can legally be saved over at legal-talk at .
No one has yet seen a way that the names from HGK can be preserved.. See
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2013-April/007534.html
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