[Talk-tr] Istanbul neighborhood classifications

Roman Neumüller email at katpatuka.org
Tue Jul 4 09:40:49 UTC 2017


Hi Jeff,

I've been mapping a lot in Turkey but can only tell for sure that

* il = province (admin_level=4)
* ilçe = town = district = district center (admin_level=6)
* köy = village (admin_level=8)

Concerning suburb/neighborhood (mahalle/semt) I'm still unsure and up to  
now
didn't get ANY response from the Turkish community regarding classification
(see  
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/2014-November/000362.html)

The community is not very active in the mailinglist - they may be more  
active in
a facebook group (I don't use fb)

   https://www.facebook.com/OpenStreetMapTurkey/

Semt seems as if only being used in big cities - wikipedia calls them  
"quarters":

* https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Türkiye'deki_semtler
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Quarters_in_Turkey

Even villages may have 1) suburbs which I give the neighborhood tag and 2)  
"mezra"s
where I use hamlet.

Yayla vary from location (no house at all) over hamlet (some houses) to  
suburb/village
(if big like a village)

Wikipedia says yayla = Plateau - in German I'd rather call them "Alm".

Bucak is sort of deprecated  
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucak_(administrative_unit))

Another thing is that most villages in metropolitan municipalities have  
been converted
to suburbs (6360 Metropolıtan Law) after 2012

http://econpapers.repec.org/article/scn000raj/383.htm

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 10:42:29 +0300, Jeff Haack <jeff.haack at hotosm.org>  
wrote:

> Hi OSMers,
>
> I'm trying to understand the placename classifications in Istanbul and  
> how those relate to OSM tags, and hoping someone can help.  In Istanbul  
> there
> are ilçe (districts) and mahalle (neighborhoods).  But then there are  
> also semtler - what is the difference between mahalle and semtler?
>
> Also I'm wondering about how to tag places.  From the OSM wiki it seems
> that districts should be place=suburb and mahalle should be
> place=neighborhood, but on the map the districts are usually place=town  
> and mahalle/semtleri are either place=suburb or place=neighborhood.  Is  
> there
> any reason for tagging ilçe as place=town?
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion on how to formalize the tags?
>
> Cheers,
> Jeff


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