[Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NAPTAN database

Shaun McDonald shaun at shaunmcdonald.me.uk
Fri Feb 20 14:20:43 GMT 2009


On 20 Feb 2009, at 14:12, Thomas Wood wrote:
>>>
>>
>> The NaPTAN code is useful to the public. One can text that code to  
>> a phone
>> number and get information about upcoming departures.
>> http://www.pti.org.uk/SMS/SMS.htm
>>
>> The number 504974 might be an asset number of the bus stop used by  
>> the
>> authority for management purposes. That might belong in the  
>> PlateCode field,
>> but the problem with non-naptan fields is that they will be done  
>> differently
>> in different parts of the county.
>>
>> Should YT go in Ref? I am not sure about that. It might be better  
>> to using
>> the naptancode there which is unique nationally.
>
> In my opinion, yes, where provided. However, since my view is
> essentially London-only, (where NaptanCodes don't exist at all), I
> find that the Stop indicator is the most useful thing, since it is
> almost essential to differentiate stops at transport hubs.
> I don't see any problem with having a non-unique ref=, since it's be
> likely to be unique on a local scale which is when it is most useful.

I have seen these local codes on a red circle at the top of the pole  
in Edinburgh. I always enter them as local_ref=... since it a is a  
local reference. ref=... should be used for the national ref of the  
bus stop in my opinion.


Shaun

>
>
>>>> Note that my OSM data entry is missing the stuff at the top of  
>>>> the sign
>>>> which Brian has been putting under the name tag I believe. Only  
>>>> stops at
>>>> major intersections/termini I think have these extra bits of data  
>>>> at the
>>>> top
>>>> of the sign.
>>>
>>> Only the reference (YF) is listed in NaPTAN.
>>
>> YF or similar is sometimes included on a roundel at the top of the  
>> pole.
>
> Yes
>
> -- 
> Regards,
> Thomas Wood
> (Edgemaster)
>
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