[Talk-transit] Naptan import

Thomas Wood grand.edgemaster at gmail.com
Wed Jul 22 22:30:34 BST 2009


2009/7/22 Thomas Wood <grand.edgemaster at gmail.com>:
> 2009/7/22 Peter Miller <peter.miller at itoworld.com>:
>>
>> On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:35, Thomas Wood wrote:
>>
>>> 2009/7/20 Peter J Stoner <stonerpj at mytraveline.info>:
>>>>
>>>> In message on 20 Jul 2009,  Ed Loach wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming that the naptan import when it happens will be as at a
>>>>> certain point in time, and won't include any new bus stops since that
>>>>> time?
>>>>
>>>>> I'm asking because a bus route has changed in the last week or so that
>>>>> now passes my house both ways instead of just one way and rather than
>>>>> add bus stops on the other side of the road they've added a taped
>>>>> message "Buses stop here and opposite" to each of the existing bus
>>>>> stops on the road.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If the Transport authority has done its job properly then we will
>>>> expect to see Custom and Practice stops appear in NaPTAN opposite the
>>
>> snip
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The refreshed data is yet to be downloaded, so depending on the
>>> responsiveness of the LA, the stops may be in there by the time I get
>>> around to finalising the import.
>>
>>
>> I am conscious that it is now over 6 months since the data was offered. I do
>> realise that a lot of technical work and familiarisation has been taking
>> place but it would be great to be able to complete the import and move on.
>>
>> I am also aware that there is a 50K place gazetteer sitting there untouched
>> - last week I was adding villages in Norfolk by hand and the data is sitting
>> available in NPTG.
>
> It is, we need to start thinking about what we can do with it.
>
>> Do you need help with the NaPTAN import or are you just about ready to do
>> the work? Do we need to set up a wiki page where people can request imports
>> for their authority or are we going to do it without that?
>>
>
> I've been putting off working on it for a while as slightly more
> interesting projects seem to keep coming my way.
> Anyway, I'm now checking that the new tools that will be used to
> upload the data that have been written for 0.6 will meet our needs.
> For this I'm doing a few uploads to a dev server to see what the
> imported data looks like with regards the created changesets etc.
> I'm probably going to have to modify the uploader to record object ids
> that are being stored for missing references to stop areas.

I have just done a fairly thorough review of both the 0.6 API bulk
upload scripts. Neither works fully as expected.
I have three options, fix the python one, finish the php one, or port
the 0.5 perl one...

The first option is currently looking most tempting.

-- 
Regards,
Thomas Wood
(Edgemaster)




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