[Talk-transit] NaPTAN import

Brian Prangle bprangle at googlemail.com
Mon Mar 9 09:59:56 GMT 2009

Hi everyone

Summarising where I believe we've got to:

1. Thomas: schedule for completion - we're entirely in your hands - agree
it's best to avoid the API update.
2. Birmingham only for test import
3. No highway=bus_stop tags, enabling us to merge/verify existing OSM data (
Christophe's visual tool to eventually solve this manual task) BUT tag taxi
ranks as amenity=taxi
4. Import on the basis of the current selection/naming in naptan tagging
wiki. Imports to be carried out by new user naptan
5. Plusbus zones and stop areas - import the naptan data only and leave
doing anything with it until the debate on stopareas reaches a conclusion
6. Roger/Peter:  is our current method of accessing the data OK? Or do you
have to explicitly issue us with a dataset (perhaps the data publicly
available for test is not the most current/accurate?)
7. Andy: agree on re-tagging w mids bus stops with route_ref and using
semicolons instead of pipes to separate route nos in order to standardise -
presume you have an automated routine for this?
8. Update needed on wiki regarding bus_stops (Andy? I'm happy to do a first
draft for you to edit before publication - or better still submit it to this
discussion list)

Parked for later discussion/solution

a)Stopareas (see above)
b)Big-bang vs regional adoption (probably a talk gb discussion once
Birmingham data and process completed)
c)handling NaPTAN bus_stop updates
d) importing further NaPTAN public transport data
e) user feedback - there's a wide range of skill and experience in the OSM
community and there are certain to be problems. An explicit route needed?
f) how to maintain data integrity once it's imported and inexperienced users
potentially delete data that other users have written applications that rely
on it being there. I guess this is general problem not specific to this
project- but this is a donated dataset and potentially could drive a
considerable number of applications

Unless there are any strong objections,(or I've ommitted anything from the
discussions) I'd like to think we can close the discussion on the import and
let Thomas get on with finishing the coding. Thank you everyone for your
time and contributions

We can continue discussion on the parked items and anything else that
doesn't impact the coding for the first live Birmingham import


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