[Talk-transit] local_ref problem around Anerley in NAPTAN

Peter Miller peter.miller at itoworld.com
Wed Sep 2 09:22:21 BST 2009

On 1 Sep 2009, at 23:49, Jason Cunningham wrote:

> Hi,
> I've noticed the same problem with Anerley. Digging around my memory  
> and looking at the TFL website confirms what I thought the problem  
> was. A few years ago a resting place/bus station was built next to  
> Anerley Station for bus drivers, a couple of nearby Bus Routes were  
> extended to Anerley Station, and other buses that finish nearby in  
> Penge use it a a resting place. As a result was a change in the  
> number and locations of Bus Stops, and their reference code thing.
> The result is available to see on the TFL website. If you look for  
> the bus maps they have available for the Anerley area, they provide  
> two relevant maps. The out of date Anerley map, and the new Anerley  
> Station map [link]. And its far more complex than those maps show as  
> bus stops off the main map areas are affected. Obviously I cant use  
> these maps to sort the problem out because of copyright, but even if  
> we were allowed to they wouldn't be of any use!
> Adding the Naptan imports to this problem has created a kind of OSM  
> Soduku puzzle in Anerley. I tried to have look this afternoon but  
> gave in fairly quickly

I have had a look at the area, and many of the merges of NaPTAN and  
existing seem pretty straightforward where there are two stops close  
to each other, one being NaPTAN the other not. Would it be appropriate  
to merge the stops where there is no big issue first. Most of the ones  
around here seem ok:-

I agree that the area around the station is more tricky given that  
they have moved and renamed stops and will need a site visit.  
Interesting that you found before and after maps on the TfL site as  

Btw, I like the way you have done the platforms as linear ways which  
the render nicely. I have just replicated that in Ipswich. I did tweek  
Anerley  station a bit to get the bottom of the steps to join the  
platform btw, I assume that I was correct in my assumption.



> Jason Cunningham
> user:jamicu
> Roger Slevin wrote:
> >On 22/08/09 Shaun McDonald wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>On On the way home last night I done a little checking of the bus  
> stops.
> >>The 6 bus stops outside Brixton Station look good. There is a little
> >>bit of work to tidy up some of the old data. I also noticed a road
> >>that should be one way and needs to be fixed. Hopefully I'll  
> remember
> >>to do this when osm.org comes back online.
> >>
> >>Then around Anerley Station I noticed that all the local references
> >>were different. I think they might be been changed recently (some
> >>point in the past year and a bit) from 2 character references to
> >>single character reference, as I remember surveying one or two of
> >>them. Is this just an issue with out of date data in NAPTAN, or is
> >>there some other problem?
> >>
> >>Shaun
> >
> >Shaun
> >
> >Almost certainly a breakdown in communication between London Buses  
> and TfL,
> >so the change in stop refs has not been copied across to NaPTAN.   
> But if you
> >can let me have the AtcoCode values for the stops concerned (and  
> what they
> >are now showing as stop "indicators") I can try to check this out  
> with TfL.
> >Please send this to ro... at slevin.plus.com
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Roger
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