[Talk-transit] Naptan import stop tagging (was: Proposed changes to oxomoa schema [part 2: stops])

[Richard Mann]

They're all still highway=bus_stop. I think I'd need some convincing
that public_transport=platform was appropriate for bus stops.
Public_transport=bus_stop, maybe.

Why change?

Richard

On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Claudius Henrichs <claudius.h at gmx.de> wrote:
> One question on the Naptan import: Did you use any tags from the
> public_transport therefore? Or are these all highway=bus_stop?
> Would be a great chance to increase coverage of the more detailed
> public_transport=platform
> Claudius
>
> Am 29.06.2010 02:07, Shaun McDonald:
>
> In the UK as part of the Naptan import we already have decided that bus
> stops must be marked exactly where they are on the ground and added to the
> route relation of the bus route.
> Shaun
> On 28 Jun 2010, at 19:07, Michał Borsuk wrote:
>
> Hi everybody again:
>
> This time I'd like to propose a smaller change, but this one may break
> compatibility with oxomoa - it has been, however, already commonly
> implemented.
>
> ISSUE RAISED:
> * map bus stops to their physical location, not a point on the route/street
>
> Present status: If I understand correctly, oxomoa suggests that the bus stop
> data (name, unique number, etc.) be entered as properties of a point on the
> route/street.
>
> Problems :
> * Lines often have stops that are quite far apart for each direction
> * This prohibits proper routing (GPS + walking),
> * this system is not very intuitive I find.
>
> Proposed change: bus stops to be mapped exactly to where they are, and to be
> added to relations
>
> Result:
> * better routing results e.g. one wants to find a correct way to the bus
> stop, and not to the average point somewhere between two stops of the same
> name in either direction.
> * more intuitive system -> easier "learning curve" for new users.
>
> Influence on possible future software solutions: minor. May require all the
> stops on the route to be ordered based on their geographical location, as
> opposed to their place on the route (the latter is easier).
>
> Comments: I have seen this system very often implemented - two bus stops on
> each side, so my suggestion is just to codify the situation for future
> editors.
>
> Hope this is not too much at once, for more is to follow.
>
>
> Greetings,
>
>
> --
> Best regards, mit freundlichen Grüssen, meilleurs sentiments, Pozdrowienia,
>
> Michał Borsuk
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