[Talk-transit] Public transport proposal

[Richard Fairhurst]

André Joost wrote:
> No need to panic, you don't *have* to use relations.

I'm not panicking as a mapper. As a mapper I have exactly 0.0 interest  
in mapping bus stops.

I'm anxious as an editor (co-)author.

If such relations become widespread, they will (without explicit  
support) appear in editors as unexplained, anonymous, undocumented  
entries in the standard relations view. Inexperienced mappers will,  
therefore, break them. At this point people will start ranting "XYZ  
editor breaks public transport relations, BAN XYZ EDITOR!!&^%!@£".  
Believe me, I've seen it countless times before.

Potlatch 2 has dedicated editors for route relations and  
turn-restriction relations. If this proposal is to be adopted (and I  
concur exactly with Chris Hill's thoughts on its merits, but that's  
by-the-by), it will need to be supported in a similar way.

It is incumbent on those making the proposal to consider how this  
might be achieved. Saying "oh, the editor writers are my coding  
bitches and will happily spend a weekend of their time supporting my  
latest idea" is not an answer.

> A preset for josm is already in progress.

And Potlatch and Merkaartor? You can't just support your own favourite  
editor and consider your responsibility absolved.

cheers
Richard