[Talk-transit] NEW Proposed Feature

Michał Borsuk michal.borsuk at gmail.com
Sat Jan 15 13:46:27 GMT 2011


On 14 January 2011 18:53, ant <antofosm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
> On 14.01.2011 13:30, Michał Borsuk wrote:
>
>> Even invariant lines become challenging for beginners, because the
>>> concept of forward and backward roles is really difficult to grasp.
>>>
>> I may have got it wrong, but on a simple line from A to B, with
>> bus_stops serviced in both directions (a good majority of lines), I
>> don't see any use of the roles. I have the information that "here, at
>> this bus stops you have bus 105", and that's all I need now. I've used
>> roles on lines that have different paths, and with the scarse
>> information "out there", I managed to understand it, so again, we need
>>
>> Actually, you made me just realize that by doing that (not adding
>> "forward" and "backard" to stops) I ignored the direction iformation,
>> which would be useful to the disabled, but indeed that's a lot of work.
>>
>
> It is not just useful, it is necessary in order to route pedestrians to the
> correct one of two platforms.
>

I am now aware of that, but at this moment this is not my concern because:
* I have a lot of bus stops without a pair, that is from the old "stop
position" schema where a node on the road was marked as a stop
* I have loads of bus lines without stops mapped at all. This is boring
work, so no beginner will do it.

Also, what is missing in Potlatch is the ability to take a value from a list
for role, instead of having to type this. I hope P2 can deal with it.


>
> By the way, the wiki page on route relations [1] is completely pointless on
> this matter. From the section "Members":
>

Yes! I've been raising this issue here, it may have died among other
arguments: An overhaul and update of the documentation is more important
than pushing the new schema.

Do you have the resources to lead this project of cleaning the mess with
wiki pages? I can help, but I can't supervise at this moment.



-- 
Best regards, mit freundlichen Grüssen, meilleurs sentiments, Pozdrowienia,

Michał Borsuk
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