[Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

[Gilles Baumgartner]

Hi!

I started to work on PT, adding/correcting stop and routes. I tried to
apply the new tagging scheme for PT,
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport.

Now I realize, that none of my work is rendered, not by OSM mapnik, not by
the PT-layer. Am I doing something wrong? Can it be that these tags are
still not understood by the renderers? What is a realistic way out?

*1. Busstops:*
Neither
public_transport <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:public_transport>=
stop_position<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstop_position>

nor
 public_transport <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:public_transport>
=platform<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dplatform>

seems to be rendered.
Is it ok to *add* the legacy tag
 highway <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:highway>=bus_stop<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dbus_stop>
to be at the same time compliant with the new tags but still make the
renderer show the bus stop?

*2. Combined stops, e.g. tram and bus*
I thought the right way to tag a combined stop for a tram and bus (stopping
at the same spot, the bus actually running on the tram track) would be to
add to the stop node:
public_transport=stop_position
bus=yes
tram=yes

But if I do so, only the tram is rendered as small box, and not the bus
stop.

Adding the legacy
railway=tram
highway=bus_stop
to the same node does not help.

Is it really necessary to make to nodes side by side?


Sorry for these stupid questions, but I do not want to go on tagging in a
wrong way, or a way which afterwards is not visible on the map.

I think I might be helpful to comment on these questions on the wiki, but
changing it might be too politically dangerous?

Greetings, nounours77
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