[Talk-transit] Stop according to new PT scheme not rendered?

[Jo]

If they need inspiration on how to convert the data to OSM format:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/De_Lijndata

If you think it would actually help, I can also stop adding
highway=bus_stop on the next few thousand of bus stops I'm adding. But I
don't think anybody would really care about whether Belgian or Swiss bus
stops get rendered or not.

Polyglot


2014-08-12 12:25 GMT+02:00 nounours77 <kuessemondtaeglich at gmail.com>:

> I just have a meeting with a "big" (well for Swiss scale) Public transport
> company. They want to tag and maintain (!) there lines in OSM. And they
> will obviously render the data.
> I was hesitating, but after our discussion here, I came to the conclusion
> that I will advise them to tag ONLY the new schema, and adapt there
> rendering accordingly.
> They more tagger/public transport companies will do the same, the more
> accepted the new tag will come.
>
> nounours77
>
> Am 12.08.2014 um 12:08 schrieb Janko Mihelić <janjko at gmail.com>:
>
> It only takes one great public transport map with routing, and the new
> scheme will come to life. Who cares about Openstreetmap default map. Who
> cares about the public transport layer on Openstreetmap which doesn't even
> have tram lines rendered. We need outside help with this :)
>
> Janko
>
>
> 2014-08-12 0:55 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:
>
>> Now that the new way of rendering with Carto instead of Mapnik is finally
>> becoming reality, it becomes clear that highway=bus_stop will never (or at
>> least not during my lifetime) be replaced by
>> public_transport=platform/bus=yes.
>>
>> I started to double tag all the new stops I'm adding and the ones I'm
>> updating.
>>
>> Some people claim that public_transport=platform/bus=yes is longer and
>> less efficient than highway=bus_stop, but of course
>>
>> highway=bus_stop
>> public_transport=platform
>> bus=yes
>>
>> is even less so, but I stopped caring about that.
>>
>> Pity,
>>
>> Polyglot
>>
>>
>> 2013-12-11 21:41 GMT+01:00 Richard Mann <
>> richard.mann.westoxford at gmail.com>:
>>
>> tag-transform is an osmosis plugin. It happens before conversion to the
>>> postgres database, so you can use any tags that exist in the wild
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For a long time, public_transport was not transfered to the DB used for
>>>> the rendering of Mapnik. At that time it didn't make sense to update
>>>> stylesheets.
>>>>
>>>> Jo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2013/12/11 Mike N <niceman at att.net>
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/11/2013 11:07 AM, fly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you keep on adding both schemes simultaneously you will not notice
>>>>>> the problem and there will be no reason for developers to adjust the
>>>>>> software.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  One of the problems in this situation is the map rendering developers
>>>>> have not taken an interest in the new scheme.
>>>>>
>>>>>   If someone has submitted a 'pull request' that included the new
>>>>> tagging scheme but it was ignored, that is a different story.  OSM is
>>>>> frequently described as a do-ocracy - in which finished and coded solutions
>>>>> win out over what is needed.  And it's quite possible that we public
>>>>> transport mappers have been collecting and entering the information but
>>>>> have never gotten into CSS Map stylesheets, or whatever is the technology
>>>>> behind the renderers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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