<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Redundancy is absolute evil only in ideal world with totally full & correct information, infinitely powerful computers and unlimited mappers and developers free time. Descending from heaven to earth, reasonable redundancy</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1) gives one more validation point. Say, you have two nearby platforms: one for tram and one for bus, tagged only with pt=platform. It’s very probable the tram platform would be added into a bus route. Without mode=yes on the platforms a validator can’t inform you about this.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2) removes excessive dependency of features. Say, bus stops have only pt=platform in a bus route. If the route is suddenly dropped/mistagged, the information about all the *bus* stops would be lost. Bus stops have the value by themselves; storing their inherent information in other features is wrong (omitting argue whether the information should be represented in the «highway=bus_stop» or «pt=platform + bus=yes» form).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a maintainer of the rapid transit validator <a href="http://osm-subway.maps.me" class="">http://osm-subway.maps.me</a> I can say it requires «railway=station + station=<mode>» or «railway=station + <mode>=yes» and checks that all stations in a <mode> route would have «mode» tag.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Taking this opportunity, I beg you to help with fixing subway networks. Lately they have been being broken faster than usual.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">BR</div><div class="">Alexey (alexey_zakharenkov / azakh-world)</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">11 июля 2020 г., в 11:31, Robin <a href="http://Daeneke.at" class="">Daeneke.at</a> <<a href="mailto:robin@daeneke.at" class="">robin@daeneke.at</a>> написал(а):</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">If the highway=bus_stop tag is also being used, it seems quite redundant to me. But I would be all for killing that old tag and only using the new p_t scheme (which sadly was proposed as additional instead of the new norm) and then it would be useful to have the mode=yes tags, as long as the platform is not assigned to at least one route relation. As soon as one eg. bus route contains the platform, the bus=yes is implied and hence redundant. But that would just be my view. <br class=""><br class="">(The p_t scheme would need a new, forced version that fixes such required double taggings, but that is a topic for another time.)<br class=""><br class="">KR<br class="">RobinD (emergency99)<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Am 11.07.2020 um 07:35 schrieb Agustin Rissoli <<a href="mailto:aguztinqui@gmail.com" class="">aguztinqui@gmail.com</a>>:<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">What are your opinion of adding bus=yes along with public_transport=platform + highway=bus_stop?<br class="">I can't find info on the wiki that supports this practice, I know it was introduced by iD, but I don't see where this has been discussed.<br class="">My question arises because there is only one user who is adding bus=yes (and train=yes on railway platforms, etc.), to all stops in Argentina, probably correcting the errors that iD marks.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Saludos, Agustín.<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Talk-transit mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org" class="">Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Talk-transit mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org" class="">Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>