[Talk-TW] [OSM-Talk] China is unhappy about the status of Taiwan (Re: About the wrong map data)

[Dennis Raylin Chen]

Hi mailing list subscribers,

First, we should change the email subject to reflect a more neutral
viewpoint

Apology to the mailing list subscribers, for bringing the issue on the
Talk-TW forum to the Anglosphere. There is not only a high alert around
Taiwan Strait but also on the online forum.

The original sender from China, erik2012 used United State documents,
trying to prove that China owns Taiwan, Taiwan should not map as a country,
it is not a fact according to erik2012.

The OpenStreetMap Taiwan community members replied to his message, and one
of them, Greg Chao-Kuei Hung already pointed to the disrupt page on OSM
Wiki, and the original sender from China is still unhappy about it.

For people not familiar with Taiwan, after the People's Republic of China
was established, they have not controlled Taiwan for a single day. Taiwan
has its own government, and after 1996 hold the first presidential election
under China's missile threat.

Steven Shiau from Open Source Lab, Narl Labs of Taiwan said on the mailing
list, erik2012 could freely express his view on the Taiwan forum, even
though against the fact and other readers' options. And other subscribers
were not happy about his One China policy from China(People's Republic of
China), and reply to refute his statement.

We are quite safe in Taiwan, with only the navy and the air force on high
alert. I am aware of the CoC, is there any method that the community could
do if one person, is not paying attention to a real discussion, and keep
saying his own country's narrative?

Dennis

洪朝貴 <ckhung於cyut.edu.tw> 於 2022年8月9日 週二 上午8:10寫道：

> 你走錯地方囉。
> "effective and sustained control"
> 如果你想要修改這幾個詞 (還有 "on the ground" rule) ，
> 應該直接去向該頁面的管理員反應。
>
> --
> 顧好自己的隱私， 快停止網路裸奔！
> 請搜尋『貴哥的節慾手機』
> Greg Chao-Kuei Hung 洪朝貴
>
> PGP Key ID: 4096R/5828A7A7
> Fingerprint: 67AF B5AB 5242 3E99 16D7  EAF8 A94D 2C92 5828 A7A7
>
>
> erik2012 <erik2012於protonmail.com> 於 2022年8月9日 週二 清晨6:26寫道：
>
>> 抱歉，我對您的答覆仍不滿意。
>>
>> 如果您要說有爭議的話，世界上祇有一個中國，台灣是中國的一部分，中國人民共和國政府是代表中國的唯一合法政府，這是國際公認的事實，也是原則和底線。
>>
>> 關於歷史遺留問題，也將在歷史漫漫長河中得到解決。我希望你們修正這個地圖錯誤。
>>
>> 詳見聯合國大會1971年第2758號決議(
>> https://unog.primo.exlibrisgroup.com/permalink/41UNOG_INST/1f1c8ab/cdi_springer_books_10_1007_978_94_6265_403_7_9)
>> 。
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> On Aug 8, 2022, 23:03, 洪朝貴 < ckhung於cyut.edu.tw> wrote:
>>
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes
>>
>> In the case where there are multiple local names, then if the government
>> with effective and sustained control of the area has an official source
>> of names or an official stance on a naming dispute, then that name is
>> default.
>>
>> Case closed.
>>
>> --
>> 顧好自己的隱私， 快停止網路裸奔！
>> 請搜尋『貴哥的節慾手機』
>> Greg Chao-Kuei Hung 洪朝貴
>>
>> PGP Key ID: 4096R/5828A7A7
>> Fingerprint: 67AF B5AB 5242 3E99 16D7  EAF8 A94D 2C92 5828 A7A7
>>
>>
>> erik2012 via Talk-TW <talk-tw於openstreetmap.org> 於 2022年8月8日 週一
>> 晚上10:17寫道：
>>
>>> Hi，
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.標題講的很明白，關於錯誤的地圖數據，即將台灣島分割出中華人民共和國並將其標註為“中華民國”的這一行為。就事論事。所以我並沒有來錯地方，也不存在所謂的“不清楚為什麼來討論”。
>>> 2.這不是政治口號，這是國際上公認的事實，我在一開始就給出了依據。我不是故意來“引戰”，我所說的會讓你慢慢見證。
>>>
>>> 3.我沒有不尊重你，同時也謝謝你尊重我。事實上我不理解您為何説我不尊重你，第一封email全文都在講史實，也並沒有髒话等不文明行為。如果有，請詳細告知
>>> 4.感謝你的建議，我不會收回我的言論，且我認為沒有什麼冒犯的問題存在，我願意為我的言論承擔責任。
>>> 5.我不強求您回覆我的訊息，是否回覆它完全取決於您的想法。
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 祝好，
>>> Erik
>>>
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