[Talk-ug] Uganda Bureau Of Statistics Education facilities import
Jo
winfixit at gmail.com
Mon Jan 4 23:17:45 UTC 2016
Hi,
My first message on this list. I think it's great to see that the mapping
community of Uganda is involved in this. Better yet, it's great to see that
there is an active local community starting to grow.
About the import, I don't think it's a big problem if it takes months or
even years to complete the task. It would be great if we were able to
combine the data with some research. It starts by looking up the school
with an internet search engine, some schools even have pages on Wikipedia.
If the school has a website or contact details we can map those.
Another thing we can do, is add items on Wikidata for them, then link to
those from the OSM nodes, like this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3926018043
That one already had an entry on Wikidata, but it would be relatively easy
to create Wikidata items semi-automatically. (I don't know if the license
of the data permits this though).
The advantage of doing his, is that they all get unique identifiers, which
can make a future conflation/match up a lot easier.
Another thing that would be very useful for the schools locals can get
access to, is to create Mapillary street view 'imagery'.
This involves walking in the streets with GPS enabled smartphones, and I
have no idea how safe it is to do that in the streets of Kampala. (It can
also be done from within a car).
Having such imagery would make it possible to map the entire surroundings
of those schools in high detail by local, or by remote mappers. It also
makes it possible to verify or add other details later on. I realise it's
not possible to do that for all the schools all over the country, obviously.
Anyway, these are just a few thoughts I have. Maybe I'm exaggerating, or
maybe I'm wrong and it is important to complete the integration fairly
quickly.
Polyglot
2016-01-04 21:59 GMT+01:00 Douglas Ssebaggala <douglas at mappingday.com>:
>
> Hi Rafael,
>
> Sorry for the sloppy response: partly because some of the Ugandan (local)
> OSM community members get extended breaks over the festive season in
> December.
>
> It's quite an elaborated process, thanks for the effort. I think it's a
> possible great idea to have the OSM Community in Kampala take part in this.
>
> we might perhaps plan a series of sessions in Kampala to trace some of the
> educational facilities' nodes, maybe with the involvement/guidance of
> members from UBOS and the Ministry of Education to spice-up the process,
> aiming for sustainability.
>
> I will contact some of the above parties and get back to you as soon as
> there's a response, but We should also have more responses from other
> community members in the next couple of days.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Quoting Rafael Avila Coya <ravilacoya at gmail.com>:
>
> Hi, Geoffrey:
>>
>> I will start from the end:
>>
>> It's not only useful to get the local OSM community involved; it's the
>> most important.
>>
>> What I mean is that it will always be much better to rely on local
>> people with local knowledge than in a Spanish guy like me who, although
>> trying to do my best, I've never been in Uganda before (although I have
>> been in quite a number of African countries, similar to Uganda, and
>> mapped a lot in many other). I'd wish to visit Uganda soon, by the way ;)
>>
>> Yes. Educational facilities in big cities like Kampala are very
>> difficult to double check against imagery. It would be really nice if
>> mappers from Kampala would like to check the UBOS nodes inside Kampala,
>> so we can import most of the nodes there, and with the highest quality.
>> In that case, we could even divide the import, leaving the Kampala nodes
>> for local mappers to import and check on the ground. Everything is
>> possible!
>>
>> Normally, in previous similar imports, we asked for school road access
>> tracing, for adding facilities buildings and to add the village name if
>> not present. But this time the number of nodes is very big (24,587), so
>> I thought it would be better to first focus only in importing the nodes,
>> and then, afterwards, add more info. Road access and buildings is one
>> type, but using the school info to add village names to the map will be
>> a very important step forward, specially for those "black" areas of the
>> map that you talk about.
>>
>> The quality of the health facilities is not good enough in what respect
>> to geolocation, so we will need a different approach to get the most of
>> that dataset.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Rafael.
>>
>> On 03/01/16 16:03, Geoffrey Kateregga wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rafael,
>>>
>>> It is good news that UBOS has released such a huge set of data for
>>> OpenStreetMap, a similar kind of task was done before here [1] and it
>>> shows continued commitment by the Uganda Bureau of Statistics to open up
>>> its data. A lot of places are still black on the map and adding schools
>>> and health centers will be a huge step forward to make the map more
>>> detailed especially after adding access roads and names of places.
>>>
>>> About the education facilities import, I think it will be easy to
>>> correct location of nodes for schools in remote areas but it may be a
>>> little bit tricky for schools in urban centers as some are very small to
>>> be easily identified using aerial imagery.
>>>
>>> It will also be useful to get volunteers from the local OSM community to
>>> contribute when the tasks are activated, the local knowledge we have in
>>> districts where we come from will be very useful.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Geoffrey.
>>>
>>> [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Uganda_Import
>>>
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>>> Hi list:
>>>
>>> The Uganda Bureau Of Statistics (UBOS) [1] has released two datasets,
>>> one with 24,587 education facilities (nodes), and a second one with
>>> 3,667 health facilities (nodes), for import into OpenStreetMap [2].
>>> HOT
>>> [3] is willing to help importing those datasets into OpenStreetMap.
>>>
>>> The idea would be to manually import those nodes through the HOT
>>> Tasking
>>> Manager [4], in a similar way as it's been done many times already in
>>> different areas of the world, the first being several UNICEF datasets
>>> for Central African Republic back in 2012 [5].
>>>
>>> As both datasets are different, the two imports would be independent
>>> of
>>> each other. So in this email we ask for comments about the education
>>> facilities import.
>>>
>>> An import wiki has been produced [6], that can of course be modified
>>> during the discussion process. Another more practical wiki will be
>>> written these days explaining the import workflow that every
>>> volunteer
>>> will have to follow. See this one (health facilities in Borno State,
>>> Nigeria) as an example: [7]
>>>
>>> One remark: 24,587 nodes is a very big number, so I would suggest
>>> that
>>> in this case we skip tracing the access highways for each facility,
>>> as
>>> that would make the process very lengthy. Those access roads (and
>>> also
>>> the facilities buildings) could (optionally) be traced after the
>>> import,
>>> using the OSM regular account (imports have to be done using a
>>> dedicated
>>> OSM account). The already mentioned wiki and hackpad still include
>>> the
>>> mapping of access ways and facilities buildings, but that can be
>>> eliminated.
>>>
>>> Once we get a consensus, we would proceed to the imports list as the
>>> last step before starting the import.
>>>
>>> I've CC'ed Paul Uithol who is coordinating the whole job, and Tyler
>>> Radford, HOT's Executive Director.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rafael Avila Coya (OSM user: edvac).
>>>
>>> [1] http://www.ubos.org
>>> [2]
>>>
>>> https://hackpad.com/Uganda-Bureau-of-Statistics-Health-and-Education-facilities-import-hjoRNhGzDjj
>>> [3] https://hotosm.org
>>> [4] https://tasks.hotosm.org
>>> [5] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_CAR_UNICEF_workflow
>>> [6]
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Uganda/Import_Uganda_Bureau_Of_Statistics_Education_Facilities
>>> [7]
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_Nigeria_eHealth_Borno_Health_Facilities_Workflow
>>>
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