[Talk-us-massachusetts] Mass Pike Toll Tagging

[Peter Cooper Jr.]

On 8/2/2022 1:44 PM, Greg Troxel wrote:
> As for what people want, I'd say "avoid toll" means avoiding tolls, and
> does not mean "avoid interstates (motorways)", for which there is or
> should be a separate checkbox.  Does your device/program allow that?

I'm not sure if it has a separate checkbox like that, though you're 
certainly correct that it'd be a better option for our use case. The GPS 
I'm thinking of is a Garmin, and not using OSM data; I just brought it 
up as an example of how a data consumer might think "avoiding tolls" is 
supposed to mean.

>    - actual toll gantries should have tags

And in fact I think they do, at least the couple I checked.

>    - It feels really hacky to just tag a way 100m before and after each
>      gantry and not the rest.  It will work for routers and avoid toll,
>      but it is not a correct representation of the world.

I think the intent would be to mark the whole roadway as toll between 
exits that have a toll gantry on them. So I think most of the Pike would 
still be marked as having a toll, but just those short stretches where 
the exits are relatively close together and don't have tolls in-between 
would have the toll tag removed.

> I wasn't sure what I thought when I started, but I've come around to
> what I think is your view that "a way is tagged toll if it is necessary
> to pay a toll to drive on it (in a lawful and reasonable manner)".   And
> I'm ok with that magic section being not yellow on maps -- because that
> is in fact how the world is.

Yeah, that's what I'm leaning toward, but I was hesitant to make 
widespread changes to a major road just based on my thinking. (And I 
don't know as I'll have the time to make any changes myself anyway; it 
was just something I noticed and thought I'd bring up in case others 
felt strongly enough about it and wanted to "fix" things.)

-- 
Peter C.