[Talk-us-massachusetts] disappearing ruins?

[Peter Cooper Jr.]

On 1/28/2023 7:27 PM, hobbit at techno-fandom.org wrote:
> the "Russel Homestead" that is supposed to be there is
> invisible.  It's apparently still *there*, is still present in the online
> database […] The cemetery a little
> ways farther southeast is still visible.
I think all you're saying is that in the default OSM Carto style, 
historic=ruins is not rendered, while amenity=grave_yard is. There's 
some discussion at 
https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/331 about how 
and whether historic=ruins should be rendered, but I don't think it's 
currently expected to show up.
> Is there some attribute it now needs to be visible?

Are you saying that it used to show up in the default rendering? From 
looking through that Github issue I don't think it's been there 
recently, if ever. Maybe you saw it on some other application using OSM 
data that does render ruins?

> The homestead is a cool place to
> visit, even if it's rapidly being overrun by some nasty briar 
> tangles.  There
> are old iron wagon axles and other parts scattered about, too.

If it's a place worth visiting on its own, maybe tag it as 
tourism=attraction or something like that? I'm not sure it's worth 
adding something just to make it show up on Carto, but if it's 
legitimately a landmark in its own right that people visit, rather than 
just "a pile of ruins", there may be a tag worth adding to represent that.

> And should it be "Russel" or "Russell"?

That I can't help you with. :)

-- 
Peter C.