[Talk-us] Hawaii GIS Data

Scott Atwood scott.roy.atwood at gmail.com
Sat Dec 5 07:26:46 GMT 2009


This may work well in other states, but in Hawaii, most waterways are  
not navigable, except perhaps over short stretches, and many streams  
are dry most of the time.

-Scott

On Dec 4, 2009, at 20:40, "Matthew Luehrmann" <matthew.luehrmann at gmail.com 
 > wrote:

>> I certainly wouldn't be slogging up thousands of streams and rivers  
>> - most
> of which are on private property  - trying to map any of them myself.
>
> Just as a note for those interested in mapping streams and rivers,  
> "the
> riverbed and banks, up to the ordinary high water mark, are state  
> land, held
> in trust for the public for navigation, fishing, and other non- 
> destructive
> visits."  For more info on the legality of traveling in streams and  
> rivers,
> check out this website:
> http://www.adventuresports.com/river/nors/us-law-menu.htm .  A day  
> kayaking
> or canoeing on the river can be quite relaxing, plus it could result  
> in a
> .GPX track for OSM.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talk-us-bounces at openstreetmap.org
> [mailto:talk-us-bounces at openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Mike N.
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 19:51
> To: imports at openstreetmap.org; OpenStreetMap U.S.
> Subject: Re: [Talk-us] HI: Hawaii GIS Data
>
>> Why oh why oh why do some people insist on wasting time trying to  
>> import
> loads of data?
>
>   I like to view OSM data as capable of creating some usable map  
> types on
> its own, rather than just a possible supplemental feed to Google  
> maps in the
> future.  As such, landmarks are key to a standalone map:
>
>    A map without streams and rivers is not real to me.   That's  
> where the
> NHD import comes in.   After the import, I frequently update the  
> actual
> hydrography features for changes caused by new construction.   Not a  
> waste
> of time to me, and the map is useless without those hydro  
> landmarks.   I
> certainly wouldn't be slogging up thousands of streams and rivers -  
> most of
> which are on private property  - trying to map any of them myself.
>
>   Similarly, larger park boundaries could not be reasonably mapped  
> without
> special arrangements from park management to stray off marked trails  
> and
> file your survey plan.   Most parks would not allow casual access  
> off their
> marked trails for good reasons.    So parks are another useful  
> landmark
> import.
>
>  Trails - if accurate, why not use them?  The end result is a good  
> start so
> a later mapper can spend time adding trail landmarks and details  
> rather than
> the trail itself.
>
>   Aside from that, I'll agree that importing just because some data is
> available is not good, and firsthand survey data is much more  
> valuable.
> After all, if someone wants to make their own "voting district" map  
> (which
> can change every year), they just combine the public voting district  
> data
> with the OSM features they need at that time.
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
>
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