[Talk-us] U.S. Local Chapters

[Kate Chapman]

Sounds good, I think that we have to have a board in order to  
incorporate.  That will need to be done when we file we register the  
non-profit corporation.  Also we should probably look into where we  
want to register.

Kate Chapman
(via GPS...I mean iPhone)

On Sep 18, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Sarah Manley <sarah.m.manley at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Looks like we are getting off to a good start. We have 15 folks on  
> the wiki, and need 20 to start our the chapter. So please spread the  
> word.
>
>  I think it might be helpful for us to break into committees, so to  
> handle different aspects of forming, managing and advocating for the  
> chapter. Thoughts? It may be best for us to self identify on the  
> wiki with what committee we would like to be on, as well as if we  
> have services that could be of help (ie lawyer, accountant,  
> experience in forming a non-profit etc). If we plan to have an  
> advisory board, we may also want to create a section where people  
> can make proposals.
>
> From there we can work on drafting and adopting the draft rules, as  
> well as decide on when and where to incorporate. If its helpful, we  
> may want to set a time for a conference call to iron out some of the  
> details.
>
> Best,
> Sarah
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Sarah Manley <sarah.m.manley at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> As listed by Kate in her second email (and being built out on the  
> wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters/United_States 
> )  A local chapter will do more advocacy within their own nation.
>
> In the US, if incorporated as a non-profit, the chapter would be  
> able to accept donations without having to pay taxes on them (and  
> provide a tax write off to those who donate to us), be eligible for  
> public and private grants, act as a separate legal entity that owns  
> all data/material donated (which often makes government bodies more  
> willing to share). I know that the OSMF can to that in the UK now,  
> but I have the feeling the US companies/governments would be more  
> comfortable in supporting the project if it had US legal status.  
> (esp if its map data collected with US tax payer money). I think if  
> we want to the US mapper community to grow, this is a way to help as  
> well as formalize the presence here.
>
> The cons- more paperwork, money and time.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:03 PM, SteveC <steve at asklater.com> wrote:
> Playing devils advocate a bit - what will the chapter do that we can't
> or aren't already?
>
> Does the aura of having an incorporated body somehow change
> everything? It certainly didn't with the OSMF, it was more that we
> needed a body to hold independent control of things like the domain
> names.
>
>
> On 15 Sep 2009, at 19:32, Kate Chapman wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've heard various talk going on about local chapters in various
> > places. I did a quick archive search but didn't find that much
> > information regarding U.S. chapters.  There seems to be people
> > interested, but perhaps working separately.
> >
> > Let me preface the rest of my email with the statement that I'm not
> > a lawyer, but a geonerd.  I have helped establish a non-profit in
> > the U.S. that obtained tax-exempt status and I can speak with
> > regards to that experience though.
> >
> > For the group I worked with we already were operating as an L.L.C.
> > at the time and moved to incorporate in D.C.  In order to
> > incorporate we had to pay a small fee (roughly 100 dollars), have a
> > registered agent in the District and have articles of
> > incorporation.  The tax-exempt status was far more work and involved
> > proof of events we had (in this particular case it was flyers), tax
> > records as well as filling out a 27 page IRS form.  If I understand
> > things correctly a U.S. Local Chapter could do the same thing, but
> > we might need to file paperwork with each state we are active in
> > (not totally sure about this, does anyone else have a better idea?).
> >
> > What are people's thoughts about local chapters or having 1 large
> > U.S. chapter?  I can see benefits to both sides.
> >
> > Advantages:
> >
> > - I think easily enough possible members
> > - Pooling of resources, one set of paper work
> >
> > Disadvantages:
> >
> > -Spread out, most work would be remote (maybe not a disadvantage)
> > -Where would we be incorporated?
> >
> > Thoughts?  I've seen in various places such as the wiki a well as
> > talking to people that there is interest in some sort of U.S. based
> > chapter, but exactly how has to be worked out.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Kate Chapman
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Yours &c.
>
> Steve
>
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