[Talk-us] How to get college students involved?

Brian Fischer bfischer at houstoneng.com
Tue Aug 10 14:07:39 BST 2010

I teach a Web Mapping class at a University and have been thinking of having a lesson on crowd sourcing and geowiki stuff.  I figure it might be a good way to introduce students to OpenStreetmap.  Is anyone aware of class lessons or exercises that have been developed for OpenStreetmap?

Brian Fischer, CFM  GIS Project Manager
Houston Engineering, Inc.
Phone: Direct: 763-493-6664 / W: 763.493.4522 / M: 763.229.2734

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   1. Re: How to get college students involved? (David Fawcett)
   2. Re: Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal (take 2) (Kevin Atkinson)
   3. OSM US election update (Richard Welty)


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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 08:58:10 -0500
From: David Fawcett <david.fawcett at gmail.com>
To: Sarah Manley <sarah.m.manley at gmail.com>
Cc: sbrandle at cse.taylor.edu, talk-us at openstreetmap.org
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It would be cool to create a wiki page with ideas, resources, tips, and tricks for campus mapping.  The page could include links to past efforts.


On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Sarah Manley <sarah.m.manley at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> I did some work with students back when I was with cloudmade. There 
> are a few details here:?http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Education
> I can pass along the power points I made if you like (although they 
> are about a year out of date now). Just let me know. If anyone else 
> wants them, I can also try and get them up on the wiki, or am happy 
> for someone else to host them.
> Cheers,
> Sarah
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>> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:00:48 -0400
>> From: Stefan Brandle <sbrandle at cse.taylor.edu>
>> To: talk-us at openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: [Talk-us] How to get college students involved?
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>> ?Hi. The following may be outside your time and interest scope, but I 
>> am interested in hearing from anybody who is willing to nibble on my 
>> requests. I have never actually done any mapping work, but joined 
>> this list and lurked with the hope of starting to learn about the 
>> tools and issues.
>> I teach computer science at a university about half way between 
>> Indianapolis and Ft. Wayne. I would love to have someone show us how 
>> to get involved mapping precise data locally and submitting it to 
>> various online data sets, or working on software that is helpful to 
>> OSM and others. We have students who need senior projects, and also 
>> run the occasional special topics class.
>> If anybody is interested, I would like to start a dialog, or at least 
>> get some pointers to the right direction.
>> -- sb
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Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 15:05:34 -0600 (MDT)
From: Kevin Atkinson <kevin at atkinson.dhs.org>
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Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Directional Prefix/Postfix Proposal (take 2)
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I went ahead and wrote up a proposal at:

I also notice that some people are removing the directional prefixes _without_ storing the information in another tag.  See:

So I think it is in everyone's best interest that is proposal goes through ASAP, to prevent the lose of information.

On Sat, 7 Aug 2010, Kevin Atkinson wrote:

> I'm giving this another shot, this time I am completely staying out of 
> the abbreviation debate.
> A full street address included more than just a Number and a Street, 
> it also includes a directional prefix and suffix.  Vid the kid, gave 
> an excellent overview at http://vidthekid.info/misc/osm-abbr.html.  
> For example (from his
> page) in the address:
>   4242 S Champion Ave E
> The 'S' is a directional prefix and the 'E' is the suffix and in:
>   1337 Rainbow Dr SW
> The 'SW' is a directional suffix (really a quadrant suffix).
> I hereby propose new tags to record the presence of directional 
> indicators in the address as follows:
> Assuming the name is stored in "name" the new tags shall be
>   name:prefix
>   name:suffix
>   name:full
> If an alternative street name is stored in another tag than replace "name" 
> with that tag, for example "alt_name:prefix".
> If the directional prefix or suffix is not part of the name than the 
> appropriate tag shall be used to indicate the need for a directional 
> prefix in an address.  It shall be one of:
>   'N' 'S' 'E' 'W', 'NW' 'SW', 'NE', 'SE'
> If it is included in the word "included" shall be used instead.  This 
> means the the first word (for a prefix) or the last word (for a 
> suffix) is a directional indicator.
> The inclusion of a directional prefix or suffix should be decided on a 
> city by city bases and is not part of this proposal.
> The full name can go in 'name:full" as an aid in name finder and the like. 
> But this tag is essentially redundant so I am glad to make it optional.
> If the full name is not provided the formation of an address shall be 
> as
> follows:
>   <number> <prefix if exists and not the word "included">
>     <name> <suffix if exists and not the word "included">
> Notes:
> I use the word "included" rather than a new tag to simplify data 
> entry.  It also does not significantly complicate usage of the tag.  
> But I am not dead set on the idea.
> Separating out the base name and the street type would be nice, but I 
> don't think anyone will really enter in all those tags.  Also I want 
> to limit the scope to directional prefix or postfixes.
> Thoughts?


Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 00:38:32 -0400
From: Richard Welty <rwelty at averillpark.net>
To: Talk Openstreetmap <talk-us at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [Talk-us] OSM US election update
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  there are currently 9 nominations for the OSMF US board, all of whom are eligible for the board (paid, current members). Nominations close at midnight Eastern Time on 8/13/2010. if you are a paid, current member of OSM US you may add yourself to the list of candidates here:


richard welty,
   secretary, OSMF US


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