[Talk-us] Brainstorming an Import Tool

Nick Black nickblack1 at gmail.com
Tue Aug 17 13:20:24 BST 2010

It seems like the best solution combines the tools that Ian is looking
for with the community that Frederik is talking about.

* Lets interested members of the community find, link to and discuss
datasets that could be added to OSM
* Lets people who live in, map in or otherwise care about the area
impacted by an import to join the discussion, whether they are for or
against the import.
* Lets data owners contribute their datasets to OSM and includes
resources about licensing terms
* Lets all of the people involved with or affected by the import track
the progress of the import - making the import transparent
* Includes  some of the tools that Ian was talking about above

A toolset like this would let a community grow around the import
process - letting OSM get the good data that's out there whilst making
sure there's a community there to maintain it.


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
> Ian,
> Ian Dees wrote:
>> I got the impression after SotM US that there was a huge interest in doing
>> imports correctly. For me, correctly means the following:
> 0. Discuss with community (don't import if no community exists)
>> 1. Get permission
> 1a. Discuss with community (don't import if no community exists)
>> 2. Convert to OSM format
> 2a. Discuss with community (don't import if no community exists)
>> 3. Compare to existing data
> 3a. Work with community (make tools that let LOCAL community do this
> comparison)
>> 4. Upload to the data
> no:
> 4. provide tools/mechanism to let community upload the data in their area of
> interest. If no community exists, do no upload data.
> I think that far too much weight is put on the technical side here. In a
> place with a thriving community, it may not take more than a WMS server to
> get the "import" going. In a place without a thriving community, NOBODY
> NEEDS A (third party) IMPORT - the import will only make it harder for a
> community to form.
> Bye
> Frederik
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Nick Black

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